my epiphone changed color

[WannaLesPaul]

I definitely suspect non-lightfast dye as well. I originally though UV discoloration of the clear coat, but A) poly shouldn’t yellow that fast B) it was kept out of UV light and C) the binding didn’t yellow at all and D) blue and yellow make green, not purple

Its a bummer and surely this poor guy is extremely pissed, but not much can be done unfortunately.
In another 3 months it will probably turn green lol

Seriously though, that's bullshit... Limited Edition uh huh
He buys a blue guitar, keeps it in its case, then 3 months later he's got a purple one and its not their fault? WHAT?!? F*k them

Reminds me of that new one everyone is flipping out over with its raggedy ass top (advertised as 4A or something) To be fair I've seen photos of a few great looking tops, but 80-85% that I've seen look "less than" meh, or even poor.

Maybe they should just go back to what's made them successful. Good solid no frills guitars for $5-600 and less. Seems to work well for Squier.........

 

[02CT]

Unfortumately it nmber 7 in their warranty
Might still try to call them and explain your

particular situation to see if anyone is willing to help

 

[musicmaniac]

That sucks! Probably lost some value too.

 

[shickma0]

If I am correct- you posted on a different forum also ( screen name hippityhoppity) but you said that the back of the guitar had not changed like the front.
This is strange to me, seems more like something to do with light otherwise the whole guitar would have changed.

That makes perfect sense when you think about it. OP said it was kept in a case, which covers the back but not the top (when opened up to look at or use the instrument). So the back would be protected from whatever light caused the dye to fade, and the top that isn’t covered by plastics would not, hence resulting in the exact fading and “dye shadow” pattern under the plastics seen here.

 

[WannaLesPaul]

wear and tear... blah blah blah... for any reason

Its a 3 month old instrument for crying out loud! Some warranty LOL As I've already said, F*k them.
As 02CT suggested... I'd call them and get way up in their grill if need be.

I wonder if any dealer has one unsold for 3 months and it turned freakin purple good luck selling that one! lol

Anyway, I've got a good one from 2011 and I'll keep it, but I'm not at all interested in having a new one.

Here's their newest signature model BJA. Saw it on FB awhile ago. The guy just got it. Nice.......

 

[Goth LP]

Actually I like the purple better…

Same. I think it's cool AF!

 

[WannaLesPaul]

Saw one for sale-- looks purple like yours
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Too bad the pickup and those knobs didn't turn purplethat looks hideous lol

 

[DeTerminator]

Got to have been exposed to sunlight! Gibson owners pay extra for the factory to do that for them.

This^.
I had a similar thing happen to the abalone fretboard position markers on my Guild Rockabilly. I had it out in the sun in the summer quite a bit, and they turned black! I can see them, but not as good. Although unigue and cool looking to some, I would rather they had not done that.

 

[DeTerminator]

OK, I read now that OP did not have it in the sun. Sorry 'bout that...

 

[02CT]

OK, I read now that OP did not have it in the sun. Sorry 'bout that...

That's what I don't understand-- op says it was in the case covered -- so the way I understand this is no light was able to get to the guitar for a month-- put away blue for a month, opened case and guitar was purple--- yet it did not change under the tuners, pg, truss nut cover, etc OR on the back. Doesn't make sense. The color changed like light affected it yet he claims it was covered away from light.
It was a year old when he bought it, maybe Sam Ash had it in the front window for a year without the op knowing?

 

[hippityhoppity]

yes i've posted elsewhere using the same screen name because i wanted to get the word out in case anyone was thinking of buying one.
rest assured the guitar is purple all over [the color changing process has not stopped] - it's just that on the body back its more blended but the purple that has appeared is more cloudy looking than the original blue finish.
the part of the story that i left out before was that sam ash also gave me a certificate with a serial number that is not on my guitar.
right now i'm dealing with sam ash and have asked them for their legal department information based on that because when i contacted them initially about the blue to purple they said "go talk to epiphone".
well one person like me fighting corporate america probably would end up costing me more than the 900 the guitar cost.
epiphone is willing to blame "chinese manufacturing" and leave it at that.
the guitar market has grown substantially in the past 10 to 15 years - it's very easy for epiphone to ignore any small run problems.
i'm including photos of the serial number snafu and a couple of the back [headstock] etc.
personally i feel that i've learned i should only buy guitars made more than 10 years ago and that if i buy anything new than there's a real good chance i'm buying poor build quality, poor wood quality "soft wood"

and razor sharp frets and an immediate trip to the guitar guy to get a correct set up.
BTW - if anybody out there has the serial number guitar that matches my certificate - i'd like to swap certificates. lol.

 

[hippityhoppity]

i apologize for the duplicate photos there.....

 

[DrBGood]

What OP is not telling us.

 

[integra evan]

Must be the same dye PRS uses for their Northern lights color!

 

[darkvoice]

I think Tommy Thayer would dig this new color!

 

[shupe13]

That is wicked awful. A one year old guitar turning like that and Epiphone won't do anything about it ?

They had a similar problem with a batch of Sapphire Midnight Tribute Plus 60's. Some of them went from a nice deep blue to a faded unsaturated purplish bleh tint.

Mine did.

 

[elephantrider]

they refused to warranty that?

 

[Lightmanager]

I was thinking about the topic again - OP says the guitar was in the case for 3 month so we can assume that UV radiation was not the reason.

Meanwhile I have the feeling that the reason might be the case or better saying the materials or glue used in the case. Maybe we see an effect from material outgas reacting with the paint.

 

[WannaLesPaul]

I was thinking about the topic again - OP says the guitar was in the case for 3 month so we can assume that UV radiation was not the reason.

Meanwhile I have the feeling that the reason might be the case or better saying the materials or glue used in the case. Maybe we see an effect from material outgas reacting with the paint.

Agree that its something in the air. Maybe oxygen? lol

Its obviously not due to UV. Unless I'm missing something, every surface that is air tight is still blue.

 

[WannaLesPaul]

yes i've posted elsewhere using the same screen name because i wanted to get the word out in case anyone was thinking of buying one.
rest assured the guitar is purple all over [the color changing process has not stopped] - it's just that on the body back its more blended but the purple that has appeared is more cloudy looking than the original blue finish.
the part of the story that i left out before was that sam ash also gave me a certificate with a serial number that is not on my guitar.
right now i'm dealing with sam ash and have asked them for their legal department information based on that because when i contacted them initially about the blue to purple they said "go talk to epiphone".
well one person like me fighting corporate america probably would end up costing me more than the 900 the guitar cost.
epiphone is willing to blame "chinese manufacturing" and leave it at that.
the guitar market has grown substantially in the past 10 to 15 years - it's very easy for epiphone to ignore any small run problems.
i'm including photos of the serial number snafu and a couple of the back [headstock] etc.
personally i feel that i've learned i should only buy guitars made more than 10 years ago and that if i buy anything new than there's a real good chance i'm buying poor build quality, poor wood quality "soft wood"View attachment 576912View attachment 576913View attachment 576915View attachment 576912View attachment 576913View attachment 576915View attachment 576915 and razor sharp frets and an immediate trip to the guitar guy to get a correct set up.
BTW - if anybody out there has the serial number guitar that matches my certificate - i'd like to swap certificates. lol.

... when i contacted them (Sam Ash) initially about the blue to purple they said "go talk to epiphone"
... epiphone is willing to blame "chinese manufacturing" and leave it at that

That pretty much says it all.

Clearly, Sam has been down this road before. Hard to blame them though (unless they intentionally swapped the certificate).

And yep you're right. Epiphone has no problem blaming China, even after they kissed ass to get a factory set up there, so that they can take advantage of the slave labor to make a hefty profit. And now recently, it seems that they're willing to send out junk. Afterall, there's no need to be proud... they still end up with the money