Virus Conspiracy, Travel, Prepping, Bitching

[SteveGangi]

Most, if not all of the "affordable" insurance disappeared after the Affordable Care Act of 2010. Our deductible is 10k through employer-sponsored medical insurance

Mine is not - Kaiser

 

[Tim Fezziwig]

I need a NEW HUGE TRUCK-I'm surrounded by "home contractors"-Momma earns bread+benefits while they drink PEE beer and Yawwwwww Hawwwww---their trucks are JACKED---they drive on pavement---Yeah-I'll give you $1800 for your MONSTER TRUCK!

NOBODY listens-until boot meets teeth. Did anybody save$ for a "germy" day? I did----Do I need a car $$? I live one mile from work-----No---I'll buy a JAZZMASTER for less than one month car payment.

Soon-FEZZMONSTERTRUCK for peanuts.

 

[SteveGangi]

This is funnier if you know North American history, and realize they are handing a blanket.
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That ceased being funny, a while ago.

 

[SteveC]

Right. When it's all done and our government has enforced our protection and can claim responsibility, it will only ever happen again if they need to save us. What is the threshold for the need to be saved? We lost 60k to the flu last year.

JFC... not everything is a fucking government conspiracy. Look at the data. Don't believe the media; don't believe the government; don't believe the doctors. Fuck them all.

But, just look at the data. Then, figure it out for yourself. But, don't let your own personal beliefs, bias, or paranoia sway your analysis... just look at the fucking data and try to understand it.

Left unchecked, this will not "die out". There is more than enough data to show that.

Go here... no commentary, no politics, no hysteria, no bias - just a collection of data. How can anyone not see it?

Coronavirus Update (Live): 138,013,074 Cases and 2,971,864 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

 

[SteveC]

That ceased being funny, a while ago.

No, man... we cannot continue to lose our sense of humor. Sometimes, it's just funny. The butthurt needs to end.

 

[Scooter2112]

The Closing of 21 Million Cell Phone Accounts in China May Suggest a High CCP Virus Death Toll

Over 21 million cell phone accounts in China were canceled in the past three months while 840,000 landlines were closed, Beijing authorities announced on March 19....

www.ntd.com

Makes one wonder about the potential of dodgy reporting on the number of infections. Tough enough to get accuracy domestically, the international reporting is a shitshow of uncertainties. I know that several US states have stopped reporting their negative test results between March 10 through about the 17th. For whatever reason.

Uncertainty, at this point, divides even more, those who think this is the end of the world vs. those that are skeptical whether this is all overblown and makes the response magnitudes worse than the virus itself.

 

[danohat]

I have looked at the data and figured it out for myself. Thanks.

 

[Tim Fezziwig]

No, man... we cannot continue to lose our sense of humor. Sometimes, it's just funny. The butthurt needs to end.

S, I've never been happier- I WASN'T DELUDED!

 

[Howard2k]

Nope. I believe it's all panic. I'm not fighting it. I'm doing what I'm told. Family too. Not going anywhere. Washing hands etc. I'm not fighting with anybody about it. We'll see how it plays out. I'd be willing to bet it fizzles right out without being anywhere near the predicted numbers but I can't afford to because I'm banned from earning money at the moment.

Good luck man. While you're off, and if you're interested, there are plenty of non-US media sources where you can find real information about what's really going on with this thing. Lots of info in this thread too.

Certainly you're free to believe what you want, but again, there are no respected experts who share the same conclusion. I think that's worthy of consideration.

 

[SteveGangi]

"Congratulations on Epidemic in the US!" - Banner at China Restaurant Cheers Spread of Coronavirus in US and Japan ...Updated | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

US liberals and the WHO have been crying about how racist the US and Trump are for calling COVID-19 the “Chinese Coronavirus” or “Wuhan Flu.” Well here is a sign on a restaurant in China advertising how happy they are that coronavirus is in US and Japan.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

So tell us again, how these fuckers are our friends, and how much we need them and how much we should keep doing business with them.

 

[SteveC]

I have looked at the data and figured it out for myself. Thanks.

Gee, then the most brilliant minds on the planet should head out your way for a conference on how to solve this. Because they are trying really hard and can use your help.

Holy shit. I am speechless.

 

[danohat]

Name me a respected expert and I'll show you the political affiliation, donations, lobbyists, and special interest groups they represent.

 

[Howard2k]

So tell us again, how these fuckers are our friends, and how much we need them and how much we should keep doing business with them.

To be fair, that's one example. There are also examples of Chinese people trying to infect each other with the virus. There are examples of folks outside of China who were happy to see this explode in China, and there will be folks who will be happy when they get their second wave.

A bit of humanity all around would go a long way.

 

[Howard2k]

Name me a respected expert and I'll show you the political affiliation, donations, lobbyists, and special interest groups they represent.

Neil M Ferguson, Daniel Laydon, Gemma Nedjati-Gilani, Natsuko Imai, Kylie Ainslie, Marc Baguelin, Sangeeta Bhatia, Adhiratha Boonyasiri, Zulma Cucunubá, Gina Cuomo-Dannenburg, Amy Dighe, Ilaria Dorigatti, Han Fu, Katy Gaythorpe, Will Green, Arran Hamlet, Wes Hinsley, Lucy C Okell, Sabine van Elsland, Hayley Thompson, Robert Verity, Erik Volz, Haowei Wang, Yuanrong Wang, Patrick GT Walker, Caroline Walters, Peter Winskill, Charles Whittaker, Christl A Donnelly, Steven Riley, Azra C Ghani.


How many would you like? Maybe just go with the first 5 for now?

 

[SteveGangi]

To be fair, that's one example. There are also examples of Chinese people trying to infect each other with the virus. There are examples of folks outside of China who were happy to see this explode in China, and there will be folks who will be happy when they get their second wave.

A bit of humanity all around would go a long way.

Yer right, it just ticked me off.

 

[danohat]

I thought this was the conspiracy thread. I'm not endangering of you. When it's over we'll see. When should we shut everything down again? What would warrant it? That's all I'm concerned with. I happen to know quite alot of people who are thinking the same way. You can dismiss me as stupid and crazy if you want. I'm well adjusted enough to handle it.

 

[Tim Fezziwig]

I thought this was the conspiracy thread. I'm not endangering of you. When it's over we'll see. When should we shut everything down again? What would warrant it? That's all I'm concerned with. I happen to know quite alot of people who are thinking the same way. You can dismiss me as stupid and crazy if you want. I'm well adjusted enough to handle it.

d, I get confused-GOT MUCH HEAT in" serious" thread--Yeah, Chicken Little Guitarists draw lines in the germs.....

 

[Olds442]

well @danohat's point is that this sets a precedent for future "nationwide shut down" types of scenarios.

what is deemed "enough" to do this again?

i think that's what he's getting at.

as far as the data, that speaks for itself imo. even with the obvious spike due to a lack of prior testing, it's still real numbers which are probably much higher, as we (mostly) all suspect.

 

[danohat]

And by whom. Who gets the ok to shut everything down and when.

 

[Scooter2112]

well @danohat's point is that this sets a precedent for future "nationwide shut down" types of scenarios.

what is deemed "enough" to do this again?

i think that's what he's getting at.

Much of this is starting to eerily resemble Global Warming 2.0. Massaged data and all...