Ever have that feeling, that people want to shoot you?

[sonar1]

Yes Sir! Sometimes a little extra training does wonders

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[Stevie 202]

Nothing wrong with that as long as the wording is respectful. I like the idea of "pay attention"...

So many problems in this world could be avoided if people would just fxcking pay attention.

 

[cybermgk]

Funny how someone successful gets slammed by some less.... automatically.

There is need for P&P in any entity to be successful.
There is need for efficiency in any entity to be successful.

One can do whatever one wishes in what they have control over.

And, if one starts a thread on a topic like this, one needs to expect some level of 'slamming'. If one does not like that, then don't create the thread.

 

[bocage44]

Being asked to look professional and behave like you have a clue shouldn't be too much to ask for in a place of employment.

 

[sonar1]

Being asked to look professional and behave like you have a clue shouldn't be too much to ask for in a place of employment.

When I was a young turk just out of the service (and tired of marching and conformity), working for peanuts: I resented anybody trying to run my life (as I saw it).

As the years passed (and the economy) I became more willing to increase my economic stability if all it took was complying to a policy everybody else also had to adhere to.

It became worth the stretch (for me).

My younger self would have accused my older self of compromising and/or selling out. But in the seventies jobs were plentiful and rents lower.

I also eventually developed a taste for some of the luxuries of modern life (like eating, and sleeping indoors). And having other people in your life you're responsible for is also a motivator: it ain't just ME goin' down if I lose my income over some errant notion of pride and liberty.

There's liberty...

...and then there's feelings of freedom from economic insecurity: which can also be liberating.

 

[El Pablo]

Minte,

Just curious I'd you see a significant difference in dress code violations between men and women. It's easy to tell guys to wear slacks or khakis. It's hard to tell women that their "hooker" image is unprofessional.

 

[Minte]

And, if one starts a thread on a topic like this, one needs to expect some level of 'slamming'. If one does not like that, then don't create the thread.

I'll keep that in mind..thanks for the advice.

 

[bocage44]

When I was a young turk just out of the service (and tired of marching and conformity), working for peanuts: I resented anybody trying to run my life (as I saw it).

As the years passed (and the economy) I became more willing to increase my economic stability if all it took was complying to a policy everybody else also had to adhere to.

It became worth the stretch (for me).

My younger self would have accused my older self of compromising and/or selling out. But in the seventies jobs were plentiful and rents lower.

I also developed a taste for some of the luxuries of modern life (like eating, and sleeping indoors).

So true!

 

[Pal]

What business are you in?

Was. Video/Film production company and sold a few weeks ago. We worked a lot of hours, comfort was key. It wasn't odd to see me unshaven, in gym shorts, a 10 year old t-shirt and sneakers when we would have big clients in. Same thing on set. Plus creative types, my office smelled like a Phish concert after 6PM.

It was fun while it lasted but if I had to work with another 28 year old jr. exec who was the product of nepotism I would have committed murder.

 

[Minte]

Minte,

Just curious I'd you see a significant difference in dress code violations between men and women. It's easy to tell guys to wear slacks or khakis. It's hard to tell women that their "hooker" image is unprofessional.

The women are worse on dresscode..the men worse on coming and going as they please. And yes it is...

 

[mdubya]

The operative words in the memo, were we are not creating a long list of DON'TS. But that our staff should pay attention to the attire of people that visit us. And for those who visit customers they should pay attention to them.

Without going through out entire customer list, we do business with a lot of big companies, many of them are on the fortune 500 list. When people come to visit us, they are typically wearing suits and the women in very stylish and professional attire.

So it is your professional level staff that is slacking? I see.

I don't know how many of those you have, but I would haul them into a meeting to let them know there is a problem. Speak to them as the professionals you expect them to be.

I worked at a Top 25 Fortune 500 company. We had some serious Big Pharma executives in the building regularly. Instead of needing to look our best every day, we were told which days they would be there and we responded accordingly (for the most part). My dept. also took pride in kicking ass and delivering the goods, even when the company itself was screwing the pooch.

Not trying to criticize. Just giving my perspective. That said, I have no idea about the reality of the situ other than what you have told us.

 

[MooCheng]

My lot get overalls so what they wear is no concern,
we had a receptionist who did insist on coming to work looking like a hooker and was a distraction to some of my mechanics, her timekeeping was hit an miss so it was a handy excuse to get shot of her.

I'm sure she was more than capable finding alternative horizontal employment

 

[Minte]

So it is your professional level staff that is slacking? I see.

I don't know how many of those you have, but I would haul them into a meeting to let them know there is a problem. Speak to them as the professionals you expect them to be.

I worked at a Top 25 Fortune 500 company. We had some serious Big Pharma executives in the building regularly. Instead of needing to look our best every day, we were told which days they would be there and we responded accordingly (for the most part). My dept. also took pride in kicking ass and delivering the goods, even when the company itself was screwing the pooch.

Not trying to criticize. Just giving my perspective. That said, I have no idea about the reality of the situ other than what you have told us.

It's not like the wheels fell off. Like any organization we need a gentle reminder that there are standards that we are held to as a company. Without order, it's only a matter of time before chaos takes over.

 

[mdubya]

It's not like the wheels fell off. Like any organization we need a gentle reminder that there are standards that we are held to as a company. Without order, it's only a matter of time before chaos takes over.

Understand.

I am just saying it was much more motivating to hear it straight from the source. The HR email/memo never went over well in my experience.

They are probably trading group emails or chats with memes and jokes about it right now.

 

[sonar1]

Watched the History of Tower Records, lately.

No dress codes there. Everybody happy.

They were also paid a pittance.

I noticed the ones being interviewed years later, who had had more higher level employment -both with Tower and after- were wearing ties...

 

[jeff_farkas]

Aftermath of recent staff meeting at minte.com, prompting new dress code.

That was one wild party.

 

[sonar1]

... The HR email/memo never went over well in my experience...

Oh yeah. We got weekly inter-office memos. Sometimes it seemed like chicken guano topics.

But one thing I realized: once the memo has been distributed it has become DOCUMENTED.

In my long term career, documentation was sometimes needed as a hammer.

Because we are a litigious society.

 

[hecube]

I work for the federal gubbimint so Yup, definitely no discussing business on social media.

You just did.

 

[edro]

Agreed up to a point. You need to leave your employees some freedom or else they feel chained to their desk etc.

Processes are good, but sometimes you need to go outside process to help a customer or teammate.

True, but P&Ps and some freedom are not mutually exclusive.

That being said, if one's 'freedom' interferes with ability of one/others ability to adequately perform their job function, it can affect bottom line which affects stability of every person's well being and job stability. When I ran a div, my folks could get with each other and then with their super and rotate scheds to cover extra days off for stuff for each other. We had deep pockets. They were paid well. A bit of overtime didn't affect us much, helped the tech that covered for another, and all seats stayed occupied, job got done in usual fashion, and I didn't lose good folks. A seat NOT covered without notice broke one of my golden rules which was unforgiveable and not up for discussion, somebody got airlocked. It was understood that in dire need, I or super would come in and cover for them if nobody else wanted to or could, and I did a couple of times. Zero problems. Not one. My other golden rule was intentionally cheating the clock. (It's fraud) Instant on the spot airlock. No discussion. No second chance. Had ONE issue. One. No other issues. He even came back, apologized and said he was not asking to come back, just wanted to apologize to me directly. Not another issue.

One can be firm, follow rules, and folks can still enjoy work. I never micromanaged. I trusted them to do their jobs with periodic checks... I didn't stand over anoyone's shoulder. They worked better with me at a meeting or upstairs in my hole anyway.

 

[PreacherCruz]

We had a thing in the Army called Family Day....basically it just meant I released the boys early,say,around 1500(3 pm)....The day that it came to an end,while I was informing the platoon what the deal was,man,they were pissed. In the days following,I gave them something to be really pissed about

Amazing how assigning a detail can completely eclipse the original gripe.

I have done so myself, Sir.

I've often had the feeling I'd like to shoot people.

I'm supposed to wear uniform but hardly ever bother. It's not a big issue in my job. My wife on the other hand works for a company with a fairly rigid dress code



I love the two shocked bunnies in this pic. Made me chuckle.

When I was a young turk just out of the service (and tired of marching and conformity), working for peanuts: I resented anybody trying to run my life (as I saw it).

As the years passed (and the economy) I became more willing to increase my economic stability if all it took was complying to a policy everybody else also had to adhere to.

It became worth the stretch (for me).

My younger self would have accused my older self of compromising and/or selling out. But in the seventies jobs were plentiful and rents lower.

I also eventually developed a taste for some of the luxuries of modern life (like eating, and sleeping indoors). And having other people in your life you're responsible for is also a motivator: it ain't just ME goin' down if I lose my income over some errant notion of pride and liberty.

There's liberty...

...and then there's feelings of freedom from economic insecurity: which can also be liberating.

All of us former military, especially Soldiers and Marines have had that feeling. LOL

Some of us (not me thankfully) have even BEEN shot at.

Spent 6 months in Saudi and surrounding areas in support of Desert Shield/Storm and only had to pull the charging handle on my M16A1 with 203 Grenade launcher TWO times.

Once while guarding an airdrop of Airforce 643l? Pallets of American service members mail (I was in a Postal unit doing support for 18th Airborne Core including 5th and 7th SF, 82nd AB , 101st Air Assault and others.) A local was trying to steal and pretended to not understand my commands. He understood the sound of that round being chambered though and bugged out.

Second time was in a local restaurant where there was resentment as some locals had family in Kuwait and they didn't want us in Kuwait or the establishment.

Both times, situations were resolved without a shot fired.

I guess I never got the memo from Hollywood that all or most military were supposed to be hotheaded, trigger happy idjits.

As to the dress code though?

Hey, if you don't like the rules of your company, you can go elsewhere. ALL employment is a cost/benefit analysis. IF the pay and benefits and work environment are worth the relative expenditures and losses, stay...

IF you think you can get more/better and give up less? Go do that. Free markets and free people.