What Gibson color & pups ?

[charveldan]

I have a 2002 LP Classic, amazing guitar, pups are stock with covers, amazing sounding, best Gibby pups ive ever played but not labeled.

2 conductor.

They sound like Alnicos to me but IDK ?

I put the mustard caps & reflectors on.

And its a burst but what color ?

It's not "cherry" but not "lemon" either, kinda in between.

I had a guy show me a pic of his R8 and it was the same color.

Can anyone help ?

 

[MoJoe77]

Very nice guitar, looks like a faded cherry burst (at least that's what the link lists it as), here's one that sold from a random site: Shelton's Guitars

You can also call up Gibson and give them the serial # and they will confirm the finish: 800-444-2766

 

[ChunkyB]

Pull the pickups out. There may be a label that will tell you what the pickups are. Also, inside the pickup cavity, there's usually a code for the color/finish.

 

[Ansen]

Measure the DC Ohm of the pups and compare the results to wellknown Gibson pups as a first step to identify them. Have pics of the backside of them ?

 

[charveldan]

The pups have nothing on the back of them.

I called Gibson, they asked for pics and i emailed those.

Hopefully they will get back to me.

Thanks for the help.

I tried reading with a meter soldered and got nothing.

I'm not desoldering the pups to measure.

 

[charveldan]

Okay i got an email answer from Gibson [at 12:40 am no less] within 6 hours of asking, guess they work late i was in bed but thank them.

So they said it's a 2002 Les Paul Classic that i knew, the nickel covers were added [after] it left the factory but whoever did it was professional because ive seen some BBQ'd pups putting on covers before.

The color is "Light Burst".

Seems i have the 496R & 500T combo but i can tell you i didn't like that combo in my Classic Goldtop they were fizzy & spongy bottom but in this guitar they RIPP ...

Pics ...








Bridge pup .... i'm guessing "LPCS" stands for "Les Paul Classic Series" or "Les Paul Cherry Sunburst" IDK ?



Bridge closeup.



Neck pup "LB" meaning "Light Burst" and someone's initials.


So they're Ceramic not Alnicos.

I love this guitar and thank Gibson for their help, [they actually answer the phone].

First time i've used Gibby customer service but they were more than helpful as was everyone here, Thanks.

 

[BWOTW]

LPCS means LP Classic, since LPC was already taken for the LP Custom. Very nice guitar, congrats!

 

[charveldan]

Gracias Amigo' ...

 

[Ansen]

I din't think, the covers are aftermarket, but the whole pups. Looks like Gibson original soldering, also at the braideshield wire. Maybe they are 490R/498T. But without measurements or having them in hands , i can't say for sure.
You mustn't desolder for a measurement. Just plug in a short cord , put one pin of the dc meter to the pupcover and the other to the top of the cinch tip ( the hotspot) at the end of the cord. This may give you a nearly accurate result.

The 496R/500T combo will measure around 8.3-8.6/14-15 DCOhm, while the 490R/498T will be in the range of 7.2-8.1 / 12.3-13.6 DCOhm.

 

[Cjsinla]

I din't think, th ecovers are aftermarket. looks like Gibson original soldering. maybe they are 490R/498T. But without measurements or having them in hands , i can't say for sure.
You mustn't desolder for measurements. Just plug in a short cord , put one pin of the dc meter to the pupcover and the other to the top of the cinch tip ( the hotspot) at the end of the cord. This may give you a nearly accurate result.

The 496R/500T combo will measure around 8.3-8.6/14-15 DCOhm, the 490R/498T will be around 7.2-8.1 / 12.3-13.6 DCOhm

Right, just make sure that the pick up selector switch is set to the pick up your measuring and the volume is on 10. With that kind of measurement, does that mean that these pups are ceramic?

 

[Ansen]

Right, just make sure that the pick up selector switch is set to the pick up your measuring and the volume is on 10. With that kind of measurement, does that mean that these pups are ceramic?

As far as i know, ceramics comes without covers. And you just could leave the switch in middleposition for measurement, not necessary to switch between pups. You can use this quick method on nearly all pups. If uncovered, just use one pin on the baseplate instead.

 

[charveldan]

I din't think, the covers are aftermarket, but the whole pups. Looks like Gibson original soldering, also at the braideshield wire. Maybe they are 490R/498T. But without measurements or having them in hands , i can't say for sure.
You mustn't desolder for a measurement. Just plug in a short cord , put one pin of the dc meter to the pupcover and the other to the top of the cinch tip ( the hotspot) at the end of the cord. This may give you a nearly accurate result.

The 496R/500T combo will measure around 8.3-8.6/14-15 DCOhm, while the 490R/498T will be in the range of 7.2-8.1 / 12.3-13.6 DCOhm.

Neck : 8.5

Bridge : 14.5

Middle toggle position doesnt work taking readings BTW.

Those covers look factory soldered to me too.

Also my 500T & 496R from my Goldtop were labeled as such on the bottom if i remember right.

I pulled the neck pup only when i got the guitar a year ago, i'm still confused by the covers on the ceramic pups.

 

[Ansen]

Neck : 8.5

Bridge : 14.5

Tends more to look like ceramics..

Okee..now i really wonder if Gibson indeed did some ceramics with covers..but
looks again like as if the only consistence Gibson knows, is to be inconsistent in doing things..

 

[charveldan]

Tends more to look like ceramics..

Okee..now i really wonder if Gibson indeed did some ceramics with covers..but
looks again like as if the only consistence Gibson knows, is to be inconsistent in doing things..

Same with 60's & 70's MARSHALLS.

I spose i could just be lucky enought to have a fluke set of Gibson pickups.

I could not find another ceramic pair with covers all summer on the internet.

Thats why i was confused, but they do sound great, for now they stay.

The covers give the pickups a Kerang the my other set just didn't have.