99 Unsung BB3 Les Paul Custom Mod, Long Story and Pic Heavy!

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This is a post about the transformation if you wanna call it that or rather the modification of a 99 Unsung BB3 Custom that I acquired about a year and a half ago now. I initially bought this Custom as I had planned to sell it and maybe make a little on it to fund something else...little did I know I couldn't let her go! First thing I noticed about this guitar was other than some "worming on the back and a few scratches on the back, other than a few dings here or there, this guitar looked outstanding! Sure the gold hardware was showing it's age but that's to be expected somewhat for a 16 year old guitar. Totally stock except the pickups were replaced. Original HSC in excellent condition as well. Got her home and still amazed how good she looked and first thing I noticed was she was a heavy one, guessing 9-10 lbs. range as I have not weighed her yet. Could tell she needed some TLC and strings as well, but she felt great in my hands, even the slim 60's neck, which I am more accustomed to late 50's necks like on my 2 Gibson Les Paul's, a 14 Traditional and a 93 Studio. Plugged her into one of my amps and from the first stroke across her strings I thought to myself, "this thing sounds outstanding"! The sustain was absolutely amazing as well. Needless to say I found myself trying to convince myself that there was absolutely no way that this Epiphone could sound as good, sustain better than, and feel better than my two Gibby's I had at this time, BUT it did! The toggle switch was junk, and the pots were toast as well, yet this thing sounded better than and felt better than a Gibson I paid $2615 for! So, needless to say I wasn't gonna except the notion that it could in any way be that great of a guitar. Later few months down the road a cousin of mine who has been playing for 50 years, self taught, and is a phenomenal (yea everybody has one) player, I took this Custom to him to see what he thought. Needless to say he was as amazed as I was in light of the fact the electronics were toast more or less except the pups, that it felt as good and sounded and sustained like it did. But I wasn't gonna keep it I said to myself. Well, I ended up buying a 13 Gibson 50's Tribute Goldtop, fell in love with it, modded it, but could never quite grasp the feel of the neck, it was in between a 50's and a 60's slim. Beautiful guitar to boot if I may say so too. Any way's, I sold it! No need to have it if I wasn't gonna play it. So, my cousin, remember the phenomenal player, seriously he really is though bought a 2012 Gibson Custom Shop LP Custom. Well I played it and tinkered around with it, but the one thing I noticed, and putting my flame suit on now, it did not feel nor sound any better than my 99 BB3 Custom...Epiphone! That's when my gears begin to turn concerning the Custom. Now I am 52 this month, been around the world and back as a Grunt in Uncle Sammy's Army, and I don't need to try to impress anyone, hell I don't even try to impress myself anymore, but the moral of this story IS I learned that being a brand snob doesn't get you anywhere. I also learned that a good guitar is just that...a good guitar no matter what is written on the headstock. And a good player can make the cheapest guitar sound pretty darn good as well. So, that's the story and I am sticking to it.

Now, the second part of this story begins. I got the Epiphone Custom out and feel in love with it, to be honest I was from the beginning, but remember that brand snobbery, well I got over that real quick. I couldn't put her down and adapted to the 60's neck so well that I like it better than a 50's neck now. So, only guitar I have not messed with, well not totally is my 93 Studio, I only did cosmetic mods to it. All my other Lester's, the 13 50's Tribute and my 14 Traditional, all got the Faber ABRN bridge along with iNserts, and Gotoh Aluminum bridge. The Tribute I even done the Faber tailpiece inserts on it. All I can say IS I am HOOKED on Faber! So, the second part of the story is the complete "makeover", modification, upgrade, whatever you choose to call it of my 99 BB3 Custom. So, IF you have made it this far stick around, subscribe if you wish as I get time to complete her. No this isn't anything no one else has done before now, NOTHING new! But I am sure possibly some have not as much done this to a Epiphone, much less a Gibson, and hopefully this will shed some light onto some things and answer some questions for those on the fence about doing something like this and what to expect and such. I am no expert, common sense, patience and taking my time is all I have going for me in this endeavor. When I am done she has got to be outstanding cause she was when I started and all I am doing is making her better.

My mod list is as follows:
Stripped down completely of all hardware, wiring, tuning machines, everything.
Polish/buff headstock and body to eliminate as many surface scratches and such as possible.
Install Faber Steel Inserts for bridge and tailpiece.
Install Faber ABR locking bridge with titanium saddles (pre-notched) and a Faber Aluminum Tailpiece.
Install Gotoh Tuning Machines (Look identical to original tuners fit perfect and utilizes same holes).
Install a TUSQ XL nut.
Install JonesyBlues Black Beauty 3 complete 50's wiring kit with 500K CTS pots, .022 oil filled caps, Switchcraft long gold toggle switch pre-wired, Switchcraft gold jack pre-wired into the harness.
Install Top hats with gold reflectors and gold pointers.
Install all new pup plastic rings and pup adjustment springs.
Reinstall uncovered pups that came in the guitar, ALL 3 are DiMarzio's, Neck pup is a DP100, Middle pup is a DP192, and Bridge pup is a DP159 (talk about a badass combination...no wonder it sounds so good).
Install new gold recessed jack plate and pickguard bracket.
Install ALL new gold screws wherever needed.
Fret level, crown and polish (done by my Luthier)
Cut saddles and pre-notched nut, which the TUSQ nut string spacing IS perfect to what I have now! (done by my Luthier)
Complete set-up (I do my own but since my Luthier will being doing fret work, might as well have him do a set-up). I will fine tune it to my liking, pup heights, pole piece heights and such, action as low as possible without fret out or buzzing.
9-42's Gibson Vintage Strings.

So, that is the story! I have everything I need, and as time, work, permits me to get it done, and then to my Luthier. Trust me I want it done tomorrow but life, and my OCD won't allow me to do so...slow and methodical, but done right the first time! So here we go! Pics and such to follow...

Everything is removed in this pic except the stock bridge/tailpiece inserts


Close up of the pickup cavities


Neck joint


All you need, a bolt, use a wrench and turn it until it bottoms out and the insert comes out, can't be any simpler than this! All four inserts for the bridge/tailpiece are exactly the same size/type.


Stock Inserts out


Stock tailpiece insert on the left. Faber tailpiece insert on the right. Size is the same except a smaller lip on the Faber. Weight is biggest difference.


Stock Bridge insert on left. Faber insert with thumbwheel attached on the right. Size is the same, weight again much more with the Faber. The threaded stud that the bridge sits on is a much smaller diameter than the stock screw in stud, and on the Faber the stud is fixed/manufactured into the insert as one solid piece.


For those that have never seen or done this on a Gibson or an Epiphone. Here is a Gibson bridge insert from my 14 Traditional on the left and the stock Epiphone on the right. Is it me or are those of you that never seen the difference amazed in the little light weight zinc inserts on Gibson USA line in comparison to the huge Epiphone inserts??!! Sure some will say wood is only thing that matters. I agree to an extent but transferring the the tone/sound via this wood all has to do somewhat with these inserts! Don't believe me ask someone who has change these inserts and the difference it made. Again, this is MY opinion on this.


Epiphone Tailpiece insert on left, Gibson USA tailpiece insert from my 13 50's Tribute on the right. Again, the Gibson is made of light weight zinc, and is again smaller in thickness. Does this matter...the jury is out on this again!


Gibson USA bridge insert from my 14 Traditional, and thumbwheel post on left. Epiphone insert and thumbwheel post on the right. Again size and weight!


Inserts are installed in bridge/tailpiece. Hammer in pic has a soft plastic and soft rubber tip. You can find these at Lowes for less than $10 compared to spending $20-$30 for one.


Close up of Faber inserts installed flush to body. In using the supplied nylon cylinder that goes over the bridge insert, rap it with the hammer using enough force but not like driving a nail in a piece of wood. MAIN thing IS hit it straight on cause otherwise you can actually bend the stud the bridge sits on and then your gonna have issues!


Epiphone stock Tailpiece on the left/behind, Faber on the right. The Faber is the 1959 design not the modern design used today by Epiphone or Gibson USA line. Also, this is the first time using the Faber as I always used a Gotoh tailpiece. I think the Faber looks and is better quality wise than the Gotoh, but that probably doesn't make any difference as they are both a solid piece of machine cut aluminum.


Epiphone tailpiece behind the Faber tailpiece in front.


Faber ABR Locking Bridge with titanium saddles pre-notched is on the left, Epiphone bridge on the right.


In this pic the Epiphone bridge is behind the Faber bridge. I tried to get as good as a shot to show that the Faber is a lower profile than the Epiphone bridge. Not a lot but a little can make a big difference in obtaining the action being set to height one likes IMO. Also, means you can obtain a lower tailpiece without touching the back of the bridge.


Pic of the profile of the Faber bridge to compare to the next pic below of the Epiphone bridge.




Bottom side of Epiphone and Faber bridges.


Epiphone Tailpiece bolt on the left and Faber on the right.


New CTS pots are of course bigger than stock Epiphone pots and the only way to use the CTS pots is to enlarge the holes in the body. A small piece of a dowel and sandpaper does the trick. Just open up enough to allow the pots to freely be installed. Use compressed air to spray off sandpaper particles cause if you don't and wipe it off scratches galore! After that I even kitchen sink sprayer and sprayed off before wiping off to remove particles. No I did NOT soak it either and it has a finish so water runs off of it. Remember I am OCD!


Photo of the Jonseyblues BB3 wiring harness with Switchcraft gold jack attached. This is absolutely a quality harness, well labeled, put together great looks outstanding!! Jonsey IS the man and glad to support him here on MLP! This harness has one push pull pot and has a total of 6 tonal configurations. He makes one that has 13 different tonal configurations. I'll do well to remember 6 much less 13 lol! Here is the link BLACK BEAUTY 3 WIRING .


Switchcraft gold long toggle switch, pre-wired/soldered from Jonseyblues. Already test fit it and hole was just big enough with deep collar nut, so didn't have to enlarge the hole. No not using the gold tip, I have a creme tip to install! Labeled and ready to go.


Body cavities and fretboard taped up ready to polish/buff out the body and headstock.


As far as I have got thus far! Plan to polish body and headstock today. Install Gotoh Tuning Machines. And try to install the toggle switch with new poker chip, new wiring harness, jack/jack plate. So stayed tuned if you like, and please excuse any misspelled words I tried to catch them all. Feel free to comment, add any advise you like and as Arnold said...I'll Be Back :thumb:
 

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Neck joint

Why is it that some of the neck joints I've seen look more like Tetris pieces? Also, is that a laminated neck?


OP, I'm glad you are in love with this guitar. I've always loved the BB3 and would love to have one. Just not in the market for one currently.
 

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Great job and great photos!
I love the Faber stuff too :)
 

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Nice work, great photos!

Thanks! I like doing things myself cause that way I know its right and no one will take care of your gits better than you. I take a lot of pics that way no confusion and might help someone on the fence about working on their gits :thumb:.

Wow. A labour of love for sure. Congrats.

Thanks and You ain't kidding I love this stuff! Definitely a labor of love :thumb:!

Why is it that some of the neck joints I've seen look more like Tetris pieces? Also, is that a laminated neck?
OP, I'm glad you are in love with this guitar. I've always loved the BB3 and would love to have one. Just not in the market for one currently.

I am not well versed in everything about Epiphone's but seem some neck joints are really questionable :hmm:. Yes this is a laminated neck. As you can see that is a chunk of wood even if laminated and from what I understand they are very strong necks. I know the profile is awesome. Yea I have always liked 3 pup Lesters ever since when I was a teenager and Frampton played them. I never really planned to keep this one but kinda love at first sight :naughty:

Great job and great photos!
I love the Faber stuff too :)

Thank you Sir! Ya can't really beat the Faber stuff, well crafted and does the job outstanding :cool:!

Oh she's going to be gorgeous when you are done.

Thanks Bytor! She was a diamond in the rough when I got her and she looks very nice compared to then. Hopefully when done she will resemble the day she came out of the Unsung Factory!:D
 

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Well, didn't get as much done as I wanted yesterday. I am holding off installing anything else until I get the Conductive shielding paint from Stewmac. One thing I love about this Custom IS the fact that it is grounded better than any Gibson I have ever owned :shock:! I usually play through my Marshall DSL40C and absolutely NO hum whatsoever! So once I reapply the shielding paint in the cavities I will try to move forward with her as time permits. I thought about using the copper tape but don't see the point in doing so as she is quite, and hope she is when i am done, and should be. Might use copper tape on cavity covers. Suggestions??

I was able to get her polished and buffed out and she looks great I think. I also got the new Gotoh tuning machine heads on as well :thumb:

Top other than a few very small dings here or there is in great shape, no major scratches. Body sides are perfect no scratches and only two small unnoticeable dings.


Back other than some worming and few scratches she looks pretty decent actually.


Back of headstock has one small surface scratch to right of serial number. Up by the "U" of the serial number on edge the finish is knocked off in few small spots as well but really isn't that noticeable either. Neck is scratch free and ding free and is perfect slim 60's, I love this neck!


Headstock has one small scratch but on surface but I can't get it out but barely noticeable. I love the fact that this is one of the Customs that got 7-ply binding on the headstock as most only have 5-ply and I never knew that when I bought her either. Still have not found a rhyme or reason as to why some got 7-ply and others got 5-ply! OK...NEED some HELP folks! See the two screw holes for the truss rod cover? See how it appears that the clear poly is rising? I want to address this before I install the TUSQ nut. I thought about some thin super glue but don't know if this will work. SUGGESTIONS PLEASE!!!



New Gotoh Tuning Machines installed! Glad I was able to find same style as originals and that screw holes matched perfectly. Also, glad these were put on straight from the factory to begin with!


A pic of the original case. Few nicks in tolex here or there but overall a very nice case.
 

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Very nice your doing a great job I wanna give my guitar the farber treatment one day,
Plz keep up with the pic,what did u use to polish the body thanks
 

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Very nice your doing a great job I wanna give my guitar the farber treatment one day,
Plz keep up with the pic,what did u use to polish the body thanks

Tazz3 once you go Faber you won't go back! Appreciate the kind words, thanks! In as far as polishing swirl marks or surface scratches I use Meguiar's Swirl X on a foam buffing pad I got from Stewmac. Use my cordless 18V drill. Meguiar's Swirl X is the same stuff Fender sold years ago under their name, and it was made by Meguiar's. I use this on poly or nitro finishes with no issues and great results always! Once applied don't allow to dry until its powdery. I use Gibson yellow polish clothes, switching out often to a clean one. Only thing I got to find is a decent polish for poly finishes as Gibson pump spray seems to leave a lot of streaks.
 

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She is looking great. I just have to add that there are alot of great polishes that can be used on Guitars. Any good quality car polish will work wonders. The Meguiars is just passable, it contains fillers (read silicone). I would recommend Bowdens Own (from Australia) or Rupes Diamond Fine and Ultra Fine.
I have come from a car detailing background and know a thing or two about polishes and wax.
 

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She is looking great. I just have to add that there are alot of great polishes that can be used on Guitars. Any good quality car polish will work wonders. The Meguiars is just passable, it contains fillers (read silicone). I would recommend Bowdens Own (from Australia) or Rupes Diamond Fine and Ultra Fine.
I have come from a car detailing background and know a thing or two about polishes and wax.

Thanks MrJudd! Appreciate the heads up on polishes. :thumb:

i did get the first coat of Conductive Shielding paint done in all the cavities and routes tonight. Do another coat hopefully tomorrow. Plan on doing at least 3 good coats. Decided I am gonna do a little TLC to the fretboard, stripe coating off with razor blade, and condition her and see if I can make her shine like she should be. Then I can put the 50's wiring harness/pots/jack plate, switch, and pups back in. Hopefully in a few days she will be to my Luthier and back to me not long afterwards.:fingersx:
 

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Got around to finally applying the Conductive Shielding Paint I got from Stewmac. Out of ANY Gibson Les Paul I have ever owned, this Epiphone is by far the quietest guitar I have ever had period! Now the only difference I can tell is that fact that the Epiphone is grounded better IMO, and the CS paint that is applied at the factory, or at least on this 99 as I don't know honestly what they do now from factory. I decided that reapplying the CS paint, (and actually the only place that had CS paint from the factory was the pot/wiring harness cavity), wouldn't be a bad idea to do whilst I had her all apart. Read a lot about what people recommended and decided 3 good coats of the CS paint would be fine. Plan to do my Gibson Les Paul's at a later date and see if this does the trick :fingersx:.

I also decided from much research that I was going to remove the factory poly coating from the fretboard to see what the fretboard should look like to begin with and to level out the square inlays with the fretboard. Used an unused good stiff utility knife razor blade to scrape the poly coat off the fretboard and within just a few frets and the first fret with a block inlay, I knew this was one mod that is a must do mod, at least for me. Now the inlays are level with the fretboard and it is as smooth as silk, no ridge around the inlay's anywhere! The fretboard also now has a dark nice color versus a dry pale light color because of the poly coat applied again at the factory! Used Gibson's fretboard conditioner, nothing else and it turned out perfect.

I will have a few days off from work soon and plan to install pups, wiring harness/pots, selector switch and jack, then solder the wiring as necessary, then off to my Luthier ASAP! I want her done as quick as possible.

This is a pic of two coats applied, still wet. Goes on very easy and dries somewhat quickly. They say 24 hours between coats. Clean up is easily done with water. The trick is getting the CS paint into all the wiring channels and such.


This pic shows what it looks like once completely dry. Almost looks like flat black primer!


In this pic you can see where I have scraped down to the 10th fret


Another close up down to the 10th fret


Another pic to the 10th fret showing the difference of the remaining frets at this point that have yet to be scrapped.


This pic, with exception of the first fret with the first coat of the Gibson fretboard conditioner, shows what the fretboard looks like once it has been scrapped and all the poly coating removed. The first fret shows how drastic a change in color!


This pic shows the fretboard completely done with three coats, 24 hours between each coat of Gibson fretboard conditioner, and what a difference it really made! I have always liked a dark fretboard, ebony being my fav, dark rosewood second. Been a few days since doing final conditioning of the fretboard and she still looks dark.
 

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Yes. Pretty much every "rosewood" fingerboard guitar built in Korea or china.

That's not a laminated neck. Those are router depth pass marks. You can see them in each route for the pickups as well.
 

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Great work! Do all Epi's have that on the finger board?
Thanks I try! I am not sure about fretboard but ones I have seen did have the poly coat. I am learning about these Epiphone's as I go.

Norton thanks for the heads up on the fretboard! Well I didn't think it was but I assumed those marks were possibly where the neck was laminated, instead of router marks. Thanks for pointing that out to me.

Yes. Pretty much every "rosewood" fingerboard guitar built in Korea or china.

That's not a laminated neck. Those are router depth pass marks. You can see them in each route for the pickups as well.
 

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I scrape my fretboards also. Makes them feel much nicer.
It IS amazing the difference it made in scrapping the fretboard to remove the poly coating and level the inlays. It is smooth as silk and looks SO much better now!

Cool guitar, nice work. Love the three pickup customs!

Thanks! I have always liked BB3's as well! When I got it I had planned to flip it and make a few bucks never knew I'd like it better than anything I had or currently have. Can't wait to get her done.
 

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