2003 Historic Indian Rosewood

[none2low]

I am fully aware that my post has NOTHING to do with this thread.

But, how about a little Pink Brazilian on my R9 Stinger:

That's a nice looking board. It's interesting to note the difference in grain patterns between old and new BRW that Gibson has used. You rarely see the highly figured stuff on the old boards. I personally think it looks great and adds character, but from what I understand, back in the old days it was considered a defect.

 

[HarryT]

The board on my 2007 Warren Haynes Sig #035 is Indian Rosewood.
I like it.

 

[LPCollector]

That's a nice looking board. It's interesting to note the difference in grain patterns between old and new BRW that Gibson has used. You rarely see the highly figured stuff on the old boards. I personally think it looks great and adds character, but from what I understand, back in the old days it was considered a defect.

You are correct.
Back in the Burst days (pre-Cites Treaty), Braz was plentiful and they could afford to be more choosy.

Fast forward to curent times (2001-2003) the more figured Braz was used as it is what they had on hand that was "fully documented".

Of note, some call the current (2001-2003) Braz "Stump Wood"......which is a misnomer and couldn't be further from the truth...and a silly attempt to "belittle" the 2001-2003 run. (Besides, NOBODY knows what part of the tree their fingerboard came from...NOBODY, not even the luthiers whom build 'em.)
Those people are assuming that since the stumps of the already fallen Braz CAN still be harvested...that this is what Gibson used...it was not.

If one researches photos of Brazilian Rosewood it is a highly colorful and uniquely grained wood.
Tans to blacks, pinks to reds.....just a wonder form Mother Nature.

I for one, enjoy the colors and sometimes crazy graining.

 

[guitarnut_germany]

You are correct.
Back in the Burst days (pre-Cites Treaty), Braz was plentiful and they could afford to be more choosy.

Fast forward to curent times (2001-2003) the more figured Braz was used as it is what they had on hand that was "fully documented".

Of note, some call the current (2001-2003) Braz "Stump Wood"......which is a misnomer and couldn't be further from the truth...and a silly attempt to "belittle" the 2001-2003 run. (Besides, NOBODY knows what part of the tree their fingerboard came from...NOBODY, not even the luthiers whom build 'em.)
Those people are assuming that since the stumps of the already fallen Braz CAN still be harvested...that this is what Gibson used...it was not.

If one researches photos of Brazilian Rosewood it is a highly colorful and uniquely grained wood.
Tans to blacks, pinks to reds.....just a wonder form Mother Nature.

I for one, enjoy the colors and sometimes crazy graining.

Slight offtopic.....but I am not sure "stump wood" is necessarily a BAD thing. Hamer had a limited run of guitars with "earthen maple" tops. Basically Maple that had been lying around in the earth (in swamps... or whatever) for a long time. It has heaps of mineral streaks and looks awesome...... possibly sounds different as well...

this one is unfortunately gone (these had braz boards as well......):

http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/mem...amer-earthen-maple-studio-custom-16-25-a.html

 

[roeg]

The board on my 2007 Warren Haynes Sig #035 is Indian Rosewood.
I like it.

looks like madagasgar,going by the larger pores,and the sharper black streaks(very braz-like)...madagasgar would be period correct,according to Gibson.Nice detailed pics...looks like the board was oiled?

 

[guitarnut_germany]

The board on my 2007 Warren Haynes Sig #035 is Indian Rosewood.
I like it.

Hey man, who did the refret on this guitar? I am looking for a good luthier for this kind of job....

 

[HarryT]

looks like madagasgar,going by the larger pores,and the sharper black streaks(very braz-like)...madagasgar would be period correct,according to Gibson.Nice detailed pics...looks like the board was oiled?

The pictures were taken just after Mathias Schindehütte installed the Cellulose Inlays. Maybe he oiled the board a little. In his opinion the board is Indian, but Madagaskar is also possible. By 2007 it could be madi. Who knows?

@roeg, JFYI, the neck of the Warren Haynes sig has a special '59 profile. In neck cavity you could read the initial "W H" in big blue letters printed on the end of the neck.

@guitarnut_germany, No refret, the frets are original, the WH sig has no nibs.
German luthier: http://www.schindehuette-gitarren.de/ (Mathias is also well known, just as Florian Jäger)

 

[roeg]

my guess is not a re-fret...Warren Haynes Spec'd signatures "NO NIBS PLS."....unless Harry had some work done....my Haynes has no nibs...and i like it!

 

[roeg]

The pictures were taken just after Mathias Schindehütte installed the Cellulose Inlays. Maybe he oiled the board a little. In his opinion the board is Indian, but Madagaskar is also possible. By 2007 it could be madi. Who knows?

@roeg, JFYI, the neck of the Warren Haynes sig has a special '59 profile. In neck cavity you could read the initial "W H" in big blue letters printed on the end of the neck.

cool,thx!....don't just love the Haynes?...its an amazing R8 imho...is your back very un-Fijian looking too?...mine has faded to brown...

 

[HarryT]

cool,thx!....don't just love the Haynes?...its an amazing R8 imho...is your back very un-Fijian looking too?...mine has faded to brown...

Yes, the Haynes plays and sounds absolute great.
Back has also faded to brown, very thin nitro, dto. on the front.
BTW the Burstbucker in the WH's are special.
Just for nostalgic reasons now with:
Bridge: original Gibson PAF, Neck: Kloppmann '58 PAF.
But there's no need for a change !!!
Greetings from my 1975 Martin HD28.

 

[roeg]

on second look,you are right,indian,don't know what i was thinkin....it doesn't look the trad lemon/icetea haynes burst,looks more red/cherry...is it a re-finish?...yes thepickups are different,probably one reason i was drawn to it,it had a different flavour.

 

[Phil W]

The fretboard on my 2011 R9 looks very similar to the board on the subject of this thread. Now I'm intrigued. Does anyone know what Gibson were using in 11 please?

 

[none2low]

The fretboard on my 2011 R9 looks very similar to the board on the subject of this thread. Now I'm intrigued. Does anyone know what Gibson were using in 11 please?

I believe in 2011 the spec. was IRW

The thread has gotten a bit off track with other years being posted. My query pertained to examples of IRW in 2003, however any year is ok, so long as its an example that differs from the listed spec. for that year.

Cheers

 

[roeg]

my bad....as Kurt Cobain once said..."All Apologies"...

 

[none2low]

No need for apologies... It's only Rock n roll!!

 

[CRobbins]

Here's a few quick shots of the fretboard on my 1964 FireBird. I assume it's Braz. I'll get some better ones in the morning light.

 

[Britbender]

Here´s a couple of snapshots of my 2003 r9, it is not in the official braz-serial range, but you never know...right

 

[HarryT]

on second look,you are right,indian,don't know what i was thinkin....it doesn't look the trad lemon/icetea haynes burst,looks more red/cherry...is it a re-finish?...yes thepickups are different,probably one reason i was drawn to it,it had a different flavour.

The red is only in the picture, actually it's more brownish.
BTW: one reason for the special (more dark) WH sig sound lies in the pots (volume+tone).
They read only 440K (most are > 500k).
I've changed them to 540k pots.
The overall sound is now brighter, but together with the changed PUP's and original Black Beauty caps i get near my "old" sound.

Sorry for the other readers, this is a little off topic.