So Yoko was not a contributing factor to the Beatles breakup

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Her telling the Beatles how to play is like me telling Picasso how to paint : Totally out of order !
 

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He didn't play on quite a few, let alone the first two.. :laugh2:

I know the session man who did well, but I wont mention his name here .
One of the UK's top session men of the 60's and 70's.

Mr. White...?
 

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It's
not
unusual
to find Andy
hard at work on the drums.....
 

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The Beatles were finished as a group by mid 1968.
Yoko may have accelerated the break up but she wasn't the cause.
 

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Her telling the Beatles how to play is like me telling Picasso how to paint : Totally out of order !

Where have you seen or heard the she tried to tell the band how to play? That's just not true. She limited her influence to John Lennon. She certainly bugged the shit out of the others, but never made musical suggestions to anyone other than John.
 

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Something doesn't quite figure..Listen to Ringo Starr play the drums on old live shows, or in fact in more modern vids..He's technique is fairly basic. Lots of four to the bar with the kick drum and somewhat robotic.. Boom cha boom cha boom cha.

Listen carefully to the drums in this..:laugh2: That's a session player.. Tiny giveaways..flams, little triplets. If that's Ringo Starr then he either got suddenly very much better for sessions and then in later live vids forgot it all..:laugh2:

Just one example..

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7uBrx5aJ20&feature=related]The Beatles - Strawberry Fields Forever - HQ - Original Video - YouTube[/ame]
 

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its a fly crawling over a womans body shot in closeup with Yoko making fly sounds

I remember that stuff, we called it Green Monster back in the day, 800mics of serious silliness in a tiny round green pill that lasted 17hrs :laugh2:

I never had the urge to make fly sounds but I admit to staring at the paneling on this biker chick's wall thinking I was walking up Rt 29 in Broadalbin, NY :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2: while listening to Pink Floyd's Piper at the Gates of Dawn and Motorhead's Ace of Spades lps randomly (this was in 1983)
 

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Something doesn't quite figure.. Listen to Ringo Starr play the drums on old live shows, or in fact in more modern vids.. His technique is fairly basic. Lots of four to the bar with the kick drum and somewhat robotic.. Boom cha boom cha boom cha.

Listen carefully to the drums in this.. That's a session player.. Tiny giveaways.. flams, little triplets. If that's Ringo Starr then he either got suddenly very much better for sessions and then in later live vids forgot it all..

Like I said.....

It's
not
unusual

to find Andy
hard at work on the drums.....

Beatles "Love Me Do", same musos, same era, different drummers:

Pete Best:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1mgIZrlLSE]The Beatles Love Me Do Anthology 1 version - YouTube[/ame]

Ringo Starr:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXKBDSPMMiw]Love me do, Ringo Starr - YouTube[/ame]

Andy White:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCU-JM6sPxU]The Beatles - Love Me Do [HD] - YouTube[/ame]
 

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As I understand it, I think I recall from the book "Apple to the Core", conflict over who was to be their business rep was a big issue. McCartney wanted Eastman, (a bit self serving,) and Lennon wanted Kline (also self serving, and a bad choice).
I think that whatever the reason was, it was presumptuous of Lennon to force his 'Lady' (artiste or not) on his bandmates, let alone business partners. Those gentlemen were contractually obligated to be productive.
I'm sure it's not much fun to have to sh*t gold on demand. Talk about performance anxiety...
 

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Those gentlemen were contractually obligated to be productive.
I'm sure it's not much fun to have to sh*t gold on demand. Talk about performance anxiety...

Certainly, you're not suggesting they weren't productive...? They sold like a billion (with a "B") records. :shock:
 

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Andy, as Therms points out in post #71...

I know who you meant John.. Just me being daft as usual...
No not him, but someone who was on stacks of hits back then. Have a guess.
I have done a few gigs and sessions with him and he told me a few funny stories about it.
 

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Certainly, you're not suggesting they weren't productive...? They sold like a billion (with a "B") records. :shock:
Don't know where you got that. Not at all. I'm saying it was not the same scenario as four lads in a van any more. It was high pressure business. I have no issue with Yoko Ono per se, and in fact respect her. But I think it was delusional of Lennon to essentially introduce a new member to the group and expect it to fly. It certainly would not help productivity, and as the results showed, it didn't. They may have produced in spite of it, and perhaps it actually helped Lennon, but it was not his solo endeavour. It was certainly not an egalitarian attitude.
 

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The Beatles where on very thin ground from the time of John's "Jesus" remark-- it's amazing they stayed together for three years after that. I feel bad for Yoko-- people always lay so much blame for the end of a historic career that had already been ending organically. I mean really would you want to hear the 1977 Beatles disco record anyway?
 

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How many bands here allow girlfriends/wives into rehearsals? Show of hands?

My 'band' if you can call it that never brings any one into the studio-- but my engineer's gf got a DUI and at the end of the sessions she was ALWAYS there.

She is really nice and pleasant, but there's something about recording where i just don't think anyone who isn't working should be there IMO
 

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