just out of curiosity... 57classic neck in bridge?

[Alligatorbling]

Im thinking about putting one of my 57 classics back in my classic... i have the PG mod done so i want to leave the neck in there, i have a set of 57 classics... has anyone tried a 57 classic neck in the bridge position, or heard of folks running a neck pickup in the bridge position? i really loved the characteristics the neck pup had... any ideas or comments are appreciated!

 

[Alligatorbling]

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[Skynyrdpicker]

I'd go for it, but that's just me. Different is good!

 

[MrRhoads]

If you don´t mind swapping pickups then try, you can always switch back

 

[Alligatorbling]

ive got a nother set of rings, screws/springs.... it wouldnt be to much trouble i dont supose lol... i get very complacent in the winter ad get lazy/unproductive... it sucks lol...

 

[nathanmanansala]

Im thinking about putting one of my 57 classics back in my classic... i have the PG mod done so i want to leave the neck in there, i have a set of 57 classics... has anyone tried a 57 classic neck in the bridge position, or heard of folks running a neck pickup in the bridge position? i really loved the characteristics the neck pup had... any ideas or comments are appreciated!

i've tried an LP with SD alnicoIIpro neck pickup in the bridge slot. i think i actually like it better than the bridge A2pro.

 

[Fixxxer]

It should not matter. I think they read the same (57 classics), there is not a specific neck or bridge variant (at least I think). That was the concept with them.

 

[Boleskinehouse]

They work well in either position. I love 'em myself. A lot of people like the Classic plus in the bridge, but I haven't found a need for it.

 

[st.bede]

check for the resistance, to my knowledge, it has to do with volume issues why one is "hotter" then the other...

please if I am right or wrong on this tell me...

 

[Alligatorbling]

i gave it a try, it sounds really nice! i have it flipped to where it looks upside down, but since its a neck pup its acutally right side up, just not where it normally goes lol, but i really like how it sounds =)

 

[overdriver]

check for the resistance, to my knowledge, it has to do with volume issues why one is "hotter" then the other...

On the reg. sets of 57s they are the same pup , bridge and neck, they make the 57+ for the bridge for those that want a slightly hotter bridge pup, for the reasons you stated the thing to do for alot of players for some time now ,. But not all and Gibson has used the reg. & + in lots of LPs for that reason,I think the 335 are both reg. 57s I forget. In the old days there was no such thing as a hotter bridge pup all where made the same , but because the pups where hand fed wire ,they all didn't come out quite the same. You could get a guitar made in 57 say, that has a hotter neck pup than bridge or the other way around.

 

[st.bede]

check for the resistance, to my knowledge, it has to do with volume issues why one is "hotter" then the other....

On the reg. sets of 57s they are the same pup , bridge and neck, they make the 57+ for the bridge for those that want a slightly hotter bridge pup, for the reasons you stated the thing to do for alot of players for some time now ,. But not all and Gibson has used the reg. & + in lots of LPs for that reason,I think the 335 are both reg. 57s I forget. In the old days there was no such thing as a hotter bridge pup all where made the same , but because the pups where hand fed wire ,they all didn't come out quite the same. You could get a guitar made in 57 say, that has a hotter neck pup than bridge or the other way around.

thank you so much for the info

 

[overdriver]

Oh and also during the late 50s Gibson used different strength Alnico, sort of used whatever maybe cost effective ? some have AV some AII. Designed for use with AV I forget the story maybe something about AV not available so they went with AII or whatever.

I don't worry my pretty little head about it. I am sure the one that do will correct me.

 

[JLH]

So, the DCR is the same on both the neck and the bridge pup on my 2001 R8?

 

[overdriver]

So, the DCR is the same on both the neck and the bridge pup on my 2001 R8?

If it came with 57 classics and not a 57 with 57+ in the bridge why yes they are. The 57s come in only 2 models the reg. 57 and + version. Do R8s come with 57 ? or BBs the BBs have what 4 versions.

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They went that way sort of with the Elitist Dot its got 2 50s neck pups in it as opposed to the Elitist LP which have the hotter 60s in the bridge.

 

[SKATTERBRANE]

In vintage Les Pauls, often the bridge PAF was WEAKER than the neck! Usually one of the bridge coils were purposely underwound (causing a significant imbalance between the coils) for a more Tele-like sound.

 

[overdriver]

In vintage Les Pauls, often the bridge PAF was WEAKER than the neck! Usually one of the bridge coils were purposely underwound (causing a significant imbalance between the coils) for a more Tele-like sound.

Not on purpose to my knowledge as I stated above they where all susposed to be the same . The design on paper was balanced coils AV mags. Just like the ones Seymour makes the 59. No special wind for the bridge pup.

The unbalanced coil thing was just a mistake often done by the workers winding they did not or could not wind each coil the same every time . Thats why some like certian PAF pups more so than other and unbalanced coils do make for a Hum Bucker with a little more hum to it than balanced coils also a little better frequency range.

 

[SKATTERBRANE]

Not on purpose to my knowledge as I stated above they where all susposed to be the same . The design on paper was balanced coils AV mags. Just like the ones Seymour makes the 59. No special wind for the bridge pup.

The unbalanced coil thing was just a mistake often done by the workers winding they did not or could not wind each coil the same every time . Thats why some like certian PAF pups more so than other and unbalanced coils do make for a Hum Bucker with a little more hum to it than balanced coils also a little better frequency range.

Yes I understand your point. Try and understand mine. MANY of the vintage Les Pauls had a weaker pickup in the bridge, often one coil unevenly underwound. Today, they put the weaker pickup in the neck for better perceived output balance.

 

[g_mane]

In vintage Les Pauls, often the bridge PAF was WEAKER than the neck! Usually one of the bridge coils were purposely underwound (causing a significant imbalance between the coils) for a more Tele-like sound.

Hey Norbe, where did you get the info about bridge coils being purposely underwound? Maybe you're right, and I'm always willing to learn something new, but that goes against what I've heard for 25 years or so. I've always been told that they took coils off the machine and just threw them in the parts bin for assembly, and that they were taken from the bin and assembled randomly. Then, the assembled pickups were taken from the bin and installed randomly; as long as there's continuity it's a usable pickup and there was no matching or sorting via DCR. Strictly luck of the draw as to how balanced or unbalanced the coils were or which position a given pickup might wind up in.

 

[Alligatorbling]

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