Cattle Now Being Fed Cookies and Candies Instead of Real Food

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Anybody here ever actually fed and raised cattle?

I find that the indignation sputters to a halt pretty quickly when someone with real ranching knowledge arrives...

Just so you know, sugars are an important part of cattle diets - especially the young ones.
Same as any mammal - including us.

The feedlots I worked in as a kid used liquid molasses as part of the feed mix - hundreds of tons per day.
The biggest worry about them eating sweets was the packaging that the wind blew into their pens.
Paper - no big deal - but plastic would screw 'em up in a hurry.


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My mom's family has farmed and raised beef since forever . . . their beef ate grass . . . when have you ever seen a cow grazing in a corn feild? You'd eat candy and corn silage too if you had nothing else to fill your stomach.

Oh, and an edit to add this: "the indignation sputters to a halt pretty quickly when someone with real ranching knowledge arrives..."

Guess this topic has sputtered to a halt because I've been tending cattle most all my life.
 

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Can't say I've ever heard of anyone doing that. Processed food is far more expensive compared to regular cattle food. You can get a thousand pounds of hay for under $100.
 

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I grew up in ag country-- nothing but dairy farms, cheese makers, apple orchards, and muck farms about... cattle were sometimes slaughtered for beef, but nobody was really raising cattle for that specific purpose. I admit I don't know anything about beef ranching.

Still: I have seen 'em dumping molasses into feed. Not sure what big ag is doing out there... but wouldn't be surprised to hear that they were feeding them plutonium or something. Big ag has been a racket for a long time already...

I am not indignant, though. I merely see things as they really are and make whatever adjustments are needed to survive...

Now for a bit of funny:

In the late Sixties and early Seventies, my two sisters were both dedicated hippie types... peace, love, and granola-- you know? They had the whole thing going...

One of the sisters was something of an activist, and one day she got herself arrested. She was caught in a local supermarket tabbing meat products with red stickers that read, "The tumors in this meat will not kill you if properly cooked."

Even dad had to laugh at that one!

--R :laugh2:
 

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My mom's family has farmed and raised beef since forever . . . their beef ate grass . . . when have you ever seen a cow grazing in a corn feild? You'd eat candy and corn silage too if you had nothing else to fill your stomach.

Oh, and an edit to add this: "the indignation sputters to a halt pretty quickly when someone with real ranching knowledge arrives..."

Guess this topic has sputtered to a halt because I've been tending cattle most all my life.

Ever check the ingredients on the store bought food we feed our beloved pets? Ever see a wolf eating grain? How about a mountain lion eating rice?

If we fed them a diet that was purely what their ancestors eat in nature it would be pretty much raw meat. Somehow they not only survive but thrive, living far longer than they do in the wild.
 
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My mom's family has farmed and raised beef since forever . . . their beef ate grass . . . when have you ever seen a cow grazing in a corn feild? You'd eat candy and corn silage too if you had nothing else to fill your stomach.

Oh, and an edit to add this: "the indignation sputters to a halt pretty quickly when someone with real ranching knowledge arrives..."

Guess this topic has sputtered to a halt because I've been tending cattle most all my life.

Corn-fed

Cattle called "corn-fed," "grain-fed" or "corn-finished" are typically fattened on maize, soy and other types of feed for several months before slaughter. As a high-starch, high-energy food, corn decreases the time to fatten cattle and increases yield from dairy cattle. Some corn-feed cattle are fattened in concentrated animal feeding operations.

In the United States, most grass-fed cattle are raised for beef production. Dairy cattle may be supplemented with grain to increase the efficiency of production and reduce the area needed to support the energy requirements of the herd.

A growing number of health and environmental proponents in the United States such as the Union of Concerned Scientists advocate raising cattle on pasture and other forage. Complete adoption of farming practices like grass-fed beef production systems would increase the amount of land needed to raise beef but reduce land used to grow soy and corn to feed them.[17]

Cattle feeding - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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Ever check the ingredients on the store bought food we feed our beloved pets? Ever see a wolf eating grain? How about a mountain lion eating rice?

If we fed them a diet that was purely what their ancestors eat in nature it would be pretty much raw meat. Somehow they not only survive but thrive, living far longer than they do in the wild.

We've got a bunch of "wild farm dogs" here . . . . love them all just like our own kids . . . our wild farm dogs eat what we eat.

We don't feed them that stuff called "Dog Food."

And guess what? The stuff we eat probably ain't all that fantastic either.
 

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My mom's family has farmed and raised beef since forever . . . their beef ate grass . . . when have you ever seen a cow grazing in a corn feild? You'd eat candy and corn silage too if you had nothing else to fill your stomach.

Oh, and an edit to add this: "the indignation sputters to a halt pretty quickly when someone with real ranching knowledge arrives..."

Guess this topic has sputtered to a halt because I've been tending cattle most all my life.

My cows have access to corn silage and grass. They eat them both, because cows aren't picky eaters. Many of them will stop eating the grass to come eat the silage when it's put out.
 

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In lean times, and mostly during winter months, the cattle are fed peanut vines just to fill the void because the grass is just not there.

Come see our "Bull Grass" sometime, it is awesome. And the cattle love it.

It has fed them for a few hundred years.

But all this is just a stupid argument! I still want me some cherry flavored Steaks!
 

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In lean times, and mostly during winter months, the cattle are fed peanut vines just to fill the void because the grass is just not there.

Come see our "Bull Grass" sometime, it is awesome. And the cattle love it.

It has fed them for a few hundred years.

But all this is just a stupid argument! I still want me some cherry flavored Steaks!

Soak some cherry wood in cherry juice over night, and add it to the coals right before you cook your steak.
 

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My cows have access to corn silage and grass. They eat them both, because cows aren't picky eaters. Many of them will stop eating the grass to come eat the silage when it's put out.

Guess why?

they're like us . . we like sweet stuff better too but that does not mean it is best for us.
 

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My mom's family has farmed and raised beef since forever . . . their beef ate grass . . .
Ideal - if you have the land.
If you have the land, you still need rainfall to support it - no guarantees.
And what of the winter when no grass is to be had?
Looks like we're back to finding food for them again, eh?
I've seen the feed bills for that kinda thing.



when have you ever seen a cow grazing in a corn feild?
You mean, eating silage?
Every year since the late sixties.
The corn was long-gone; it was the stalks that supplanted their diet.



You'd eat candy and corn silage too if you had nothing else to fill your stomach.
So... the cattle are starving in the USA - is that it?



Oh, and an edit to add this: "the indignation sputters to a halt pretty quickly when someone with real ranching knowledge arrives..."

Guess this topic has sputtered to a halt because I've been tending cattle most all my life.
Okay, my hat is off to you then.

So what's your solution?
What do YOU recommend?
What would YOU do if you were paying the bills and trying to make a buck on cattle you owned?

I'll see your "mom's family" and raise you a "raised in Kansas farm country" and a "15 years in Texas."
Been rural and surrounded by ag all my life - even here in the Arizona desert.



I'm sorry, but crusaders, protesters, and sensationalists usually suffer from an acute deficiency of reality.

Just sayin'... :cool: :D



EDIT:
Just saw your bull grass and dog food posts. :yesway:

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Guess why?

they're like us . . we like sweet stuff better too but that does not mean it is best for us.

Nope. But steak isn't best for us either, and I'll kill anyone that tries to take my steak away.
 

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Ideal - if you have the land.
If you have the land, you still need rainfall to support it - no guarantees.
And what of the winter when no grass is to be had?
Looks like we're back to finding food for them again, eh?
I've seen the feed bills for that kinda thing.




You mean, eating silage?
Every year since the late sixties.
The corn was long-gone; it was the stalks that supplanted their diet.




So... the cattle are starving in the USA - is that it?




Okay, my hat is off to you then.

So what's your solution?
What do YOU recommend?
What would YOU do if you were paying the bills and trying to make a buck on cattle you owned?

I'll see your "mom's family" and raise you a "raised in Kansas farm country" and a "15 years in Texas."
Been rural and surrounded by ag all my life - even here in the Arizona desert.



I'm sorry, but crusaders, protesters, and sensationalists usually suffer from an acute deficiency of reality.

Just sayin'... :cool: :D


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Okay, now that I have read your response, I conceed. You are correct and I'm wrong.

I'm gonna go get me a glue bag and huff it up while blasting KISS.
 

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I'm gone to sniff me some glue dudes!!!

maybe play some guitar real loud . . . hope it don't bother them beefs out there all hopped up and high on cherry candy!
 

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