Armstrong to be stripped of seven Tour De France titles and Olympic medals

[captain tightpants]

If he tested positive, we would know it by now. Just like Melky, Barry Bonds, etc.

I will defend Lance until I hear he tested positive from his Tour de France days.

I hear what you're saying, Sin. My point is as with court cases, sometimes the truth has nothing to do with it. In this case it's more like the court of public opinion. Sling enough mud and hope someone sees something stick.

If Armstrong never tested positive, something far more insidious is going on, and there may be NO way he could ever win. It's not hard for bureaucracies to get something like this so tied up it's easier to just let it go rather than fight it.

 

[Alligatorbling]

lance be crushin up flintstones vitamins and snortin em yo

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

I don't really care too much. Keep football clean -- or rather, get football clean -- and let the bikers have gin fizzes in their water bottles .... it'll make the races more exciting.

 

[River]

I hear what you're saying, Sin. My point is as with court cases, sometimes the truth has nothing to do with it. In this case it's more like the court of public opinion. Sling enough mud and hope someone sees something stick.

If Armstrong never tested positive, something far more insidious is going on, and there may be NO way he could ever win. It's not hard for bureaucracies to get something like this so tied up it's easier to just let it go rather than fight it.

In whose interest would that be?

 

[Sinmastah]

I hear what you're saying, Sin. My point is as with court cases, sometimes the truth has nothing to do with it. In this case it's more like the court of public opinion. Sling enough mud and hope someone sees something stick.

If Armstrong never tested positive, something far more insidious is going on, and there may be NO way he could ever win. It's not hard for bureaucracies to get something like this so tied up it's easier to just let it go rather than fight it.

I don't want to see him give up. The way it sounds like, is he got some pressure from jealous teammates, etc etc etc, and decided he wanted to live his life, instead of continuously defend his life. I will applaud Lance, and buy him a beer, assuming that all the stupid doping allegations prove to be false. They've been false for 7 years, so why now?

That's all I want to know.

 

[Scooter2112]

In whose interest would that be?

Whoever came in 2nd place.

 

[Alligatorbling]

sin if lance had gotten up early and rode his bike around the town before sunrise, this would not be a problem

 

[River]

Whoever came in 2nd place.

I thought bicycle racing was a team/conspiracy sport.

 

[Scooter2112]

I thought bicycle racing was a team/conspiracy sport.

There is no I in team.

But there is an M and an E.

 

[River]

sin if lance had gotten up early and rode his bike around the town before sunrise, this would not be a problem

One's best "friends" come around the corner from the wrong direction and smack one up-side the head, knocking one into the ground.

Happens all the time. Getting started early doesn't prevent it. Might even cause it.

 

[Sinmastah]

Why the hell is a USADA program in existence? Who is important enough to get its attention?

"There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, 'Enough is enough.' For me, that time is now," Armstrong said in a written statement.

The USADA has accused Armstrong of using, possessing, trafficking and giving to others performance-enhancing drugs, as well as covering up doping violations.

Why the hell would Armstrong traffic these drugs if he only wanted to win? Something is going on.

"Today I turn the page. I will no longer address this issue, regardless of the circumstances," Armstrong said Thursday.

Armstrong has been dogged by doping allegations in recent years, with compatriot Floyd Landis -- who was stripped of his 2006 Tour de France title after failing a drug test -- making a series of claims last year.

Armstrong has said in court documents that he has never had "a single positive test" in the 500 to 600 drug tests he's taken in his more than two decades in cycling.

"From the beginning, however, this investigation has not been about learning the truth or cleaning up cycling, but about punishing me at all costs. I am a retired cyclist, yet USADA has lodged charges over 17 years old despite its own 8-year limitation," Armstrong said in Thursday's statement.

"This is a heartbreaking example of how the win-at-all costs culture of sport, if left unchecked, will overtake fair, safe and honest competition, but for clean athletes, it is a reassuring reminder that there is hope for future generations to compete on a level playing field without the use of performance-enhancing drugs," CEO Travis T. Tygart said in a statement.

The CEO is already saying Lance took these drugs, but we have not seen a single fact. This is a prime example of railroading. Travis T. Tygart is assuming Lance is guilty, and we have not one single test result to prove Lance is guilty.

 

[captain tightpants]

sin if lance had gotten up early and rode his bike around the town before sunrise, this would not be a problem

That only works for Black Friday TV's, dumbass

 

[Slashperryburst]

The US should pull out of all European governed sporting events. Let them wear their false crowns.

Here we go. Maybe that way, you can have more world series that are anything but.

And if you've ever been there, they think pretty highly of themselves.

Nice. Blanket statements too. Need I point out the irony here?

 

[sonar1]

So wait, now does that mean everybody who came in second to Lance (and were therefore never tested) are now going to get the medals, trophies, money, fame, and babes?

Does he have to give back what money his sponsors gave him?

Will he now spend his days in Civil Court forever being sued by people who trusted him?

 

[Sinmastah]

Something ain't right.

"This is a heartbreaking example of how the win-at-all costs culture of sport, if left unchecked, will overtake fair, safe and honest competition, but for clean athletes, it is a reassuring reminder that there is hope for future generations to compete on a level playing field without the use of performance-enhancing drugs," CEO Travis T. Tygart said in a statement.

But the CEO of this "company" called the USADA has no proof Lance took any performance enhancing drugs. Why is he a CEO for some random company that is accusing people? Why does he get the final call, when he doesn't even know results? He accuses people without evidence? What a bunch of crock.

 

[captain tightpants]

Whoever came in 2nd place.

And whoever stands to profit from the impending lawsuits.

 

[River]

Why is he a CEO for some random company that is accusing people?

Why do people who can't form a proper English sentence get to write "news"?

Do you know what the word "random" means?

No, you don't.

Fanbois gonna fan. Marshall your forces, and all look stoopid and illiterate together. It is, after all, a team sport - and I've been tossed off the team.

 

[Alligatorbling]

lance gonna ride his bike up in this thread and be like "wudup dawg!? yall want sumadeeze baff salts?!"

 

[allbusinessjoe]

Here we go. Maybe that way, you can have more world series that are anything but.

Nice. Blanket statements too. Need I point out the irony here?

Well, we can include other countries in the MLB. As long as they play 162 games like everyone else here.

And, as in comedy, generalizations (blanket statements) are true to a point. Perhaps France got a little peeved with their country's name being associated with an American raising his arms holding an American flag?

Lance kicked some serious ass in his career, which the Europeans are trying so very hard to erase.

Imagine, a governing body that can deem you GUILTY with zero evidence of guilt. It exists, and it is France.

 

[djwilbanks]

If I remember correctly, there was a guy, Jan Ullrich, who kept playing second fiddle to Lance Armstrong nearly every Tour de France and he kept accusing Lance of doping, so they kept testing him, 2-3 times more than they did his teammates.

Eventually Ullrich gets busted for doping and said the difference between Lance and himself was that Armstrong had the better drugs.

What drug can be in and out of your system so fast that 2-3 drug tests a week during your riding season can't detect it?