Hi, we're Nickelback.

[TeleDog]

Pretty good. How ya doin' TD?

Good to hear, keep on playing boy, I know you got it in you!!!!!!!

 

[GuitarToneFreak]

You're right. He seems to have an aversion to computers.

GTF, I dislike all those bands as much as Nickleback. Here is the thing, and it's simple, maybe Nickleback has a decent sound a chicks, but their music is just the same thing over and over and over. And I don't get the impression they have any respect for their fans. Dave and Co. adores the fans. I can tell just how much they appreciate the people who buy their albums and go see them, and I can also tell how much they appreciate other artists. Really, the Foo Fighters are more musical. Their songs and lyrics are better.
It's like, Dave will throw out a song like Halo or Breakout. You will never hear anything that catchy from Nickleback, ever.

I put my energy into hating Nickleback because they made rock LESS cool. They are the poser douchebags I'd probably wind up getting my ass kicked by in a barfight, but I'd be glad I got into it. Suddenly older people and dumb women who don't know they're being put down have some hard rock to listen to again after that bullshit got stamped out by the greatness that was bands like Nirvana. Eff me...

I suppose that's true, Dave and the Boys seem genuine about it, and that's cool I guess. I don't know if Nickelback does or not, I've heard stories about Kroeger being an ass, but I don't care too much. It doesn't really affect me personally as to which band puts more heart and compassion into it, my favorite band is the band that'll slap their faces on condoms and caskeets for God's sake!

Maybe they did, but that just means somebody will have to come around and make it more cool again, if that's the way you see it. I'd imagine you feel the same way the Thrash Metal guys did in the 80's, when they got to play clubs while bands like Poison got to play arenas and stadiums. Every band has made some genre less cool according to somebody, and every band has made some genre more cool according to somebody, beauty is in the eye of the beholder......so to speak.

 

[Job-Job type Job]

I'm no Nickleback fan but at the end of the day it's just wood and wire, no matter what it looks like.

 

[nbeersiii]

I didn't mean it in a bad way, Dave's got a knack for writing a great rock song with enough of a pop flare or "safeness" to get it played on the radio. It's one of the reasons that he found massive success with the Foos in the first place, it's a hard line to tow and one many bands fail at, he didn't.

I'm not disputing that Dave puts on a great show, but anything I've seen tells me that Nickelback does too. There's a reason they consistently sell out arenas in a time period where rock artists, old and new, are subjected to amphitheaters and clubs. Nickelback and The Foo Fighters are both arena rock acts, and why? Because they have Rock and Mainstream appeal, they're geniuses for being able to find the balance and being able to take advantage of it.

I wouldn't be so quick to label Nickelback "shite like Ke$ha and Bieber", there's something for everybody in this big musical cloud. I fvcking hate Jack White with a burning passion, and I feel he's a pretentious, untalented hack. But you like him and his music, and that's fine. Plenty to go around, the world's not going to end because I don't like him.

I like some of Nickelback's stuff, is it all great? No, but are they the 'worst rock band ever' like they get the tag for? Absolutely not, IMO all these bands deserve that tag more than Nickelback.

3 Doors Down - You want to talk about all your songs sounding the same? 3 Doors Down wrote "Here Without You" years back and they've been re-writing it with new words ever since.

Seether

Saliva

Brokencyde

Motionless in White

Rev Theory

Theory of a Deadman - The most boring, paint by the numbers rock band out there, IMO.

Hinder

Staind

Saving Abel

Again, just my opinion. Those bands have their fans, I'm not one, and they don't need me to be - it's whatever. Those bands will continue to sell CDs and play shows, and all my huffing and puffing won't change that - but the rabid haters of Nickelback seem to think that their hate of the band is going to change things. Like I said they're hardly the greatest Rock band in the world, but I think some people just hate them because it's the "in" thing to do. It's popular to hate Nickelback, but whatever. I just don't get the energy some people put into hating them, seems counter-productive.

Nickelback sucks and jack white can play like a MoFo.

 

[rxbandit]

I suppose that's true, Dave and the Boys seem genuine about it, and that's cool I guess. I don't know if Nickelback does or not, I've heard stories about Kroeger being an ass, but I don't care too much. It doesn't really affect me personally as to which band puts more heart and compassion into it, my favorite band is the band that'll slap their faces on condoms and caskeets for God's sake!

Maybe they did, but that just means somebody will have to come around and make it more cool again, if that's the way you see it. I'd imagine you feel the same way the Thrash Metal guys did in the 80's, when they got to play clubs while bands like Poison got to play arenas and stadiums. Every band has made some genre less cool according to somebody, and every band has made some genre more cool according to somebody, beauty is in the eye of the beholder......so to speak.

Now your position makes complete sense.

 

[ledfloyd]

Sabbath/Iommi tuned down to C#....


that's about all I have to contribute to this thread.

You do know that the first Sabbath album which is the archetype/beginning of heavy music was played in E.

I'll take that as a no.

 

[TeleDog]

Nickelback sucks and jack white can play like a MoFo.

Oh come on... music is art and you know some people like weird stuff. I hate that crap but some like it, and there's nothing we can do bout it! Isn't that the cool thing about music, or you want people telling you you can't play just cause they don't like the style?

 

[SWeAT hOg]

You do know that the first Sabbath album which is the archetype/beginning of heavy music was played in E.

I'll take that as a no.

Isn't that the case with Paranoid as well (played in E)?

 

[GuitarToneFreak]

Now your position makes complete sense.

Eh, maybe so - whatever. We're not on this space rock for very long, I don't have time to do background checks on bands to make sure that they're 100% genuine and are only in it for the music, all other side benefits need not apply. I'll leave that to others, I like to have fun with my music - not over-analyze it to death to make sure it meets my high standards.

 

[nbeersiii]

Screamin' Jay Hawkins wore makeup,...so did Alice Cooper,...and I'm sure there were others I don't know about.

KISS weren't original in that regard.

Slipknot has an image that works with the band. They've won like 20 awards, tour non-stop, and my guess would be that they make a ton of money.

They're doing something right.

btw, I'm not a Slipknot fan at all,...just sayin'

Whatever. I still think they look like dumbasses. I dont like the music either. I think I associate them with the likes of Korn and I have hated Korn from the beginning.

 

[ledfloyd]

Isn't that the case with Paranoid as well (played in E)?

Yes.

 

[Drew224]

You do know that the first Sabbath album which is the archetype/beginning of heavy music was played in E.

I'll take that as a no.

I might be wrong but it was the first few albums that were done in standard tuning. 1 1/2 down started on Master of Reality.

 

[GuitarToneFreak]

Whatever. I still think they look like dumbasses. I dont like the music either. I think I associate them with the likes of Korn and I have hated Korn from the beginning.

That's a huge insult to Slipknot, associating them with Korn

It's true though, both were real popular around that Nu-Metal time, mixing Rap with Rock. Only difference is Slipknot evolved, while anything recent I've heard from Korn sounds like the same thing they've been releasing forever. Refuse to evolve and grow and you get left behind, meanwhile Slipknot just headlined Download a few years back. Music's a weird world eh?

 

[Drew224]

Good to hear, keep on playing boy, I know you got it in you!!!!!!!

Thanks man, I certainly hope so.

 

[rxbandit]

That's a huge insult to Slipknot, associating them with Korn

It's true though, both were real popular around that Nu-Metal time, mixing Rap with Rock. Only difference is Slipknot evolved, while anything recent I've heard from Korn sounds like the same thing they've been releasing forever. Refuse to evolve and grow and you get left behind, meanwhile Slipknot just headlined Download a few years back. Music's a weird world eh?

And this is different from Nickelback how?

Serious question, not trying to be an ass.

 

[SWeAT hOg]

I might be wrong but it was the first few albums that were done in standard tuning. 1 1/2 down started on Master of Reality.

And I think it was to make it easier for Tony to play with the chopped fingers. How that accident affected his playing and writing is a very interesting story.

 

[GuitarToneFreak]

Did somebody say "badass, underrated down-tuned Sabbath song?"

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joM9rTwXPx4]Black Sabbath - A National Acrobat - YouTube[/ame]

 

[GuitarToneFreak]

And this is different from Nickelback how?

Serious question, not trying to be an ass.

You're killing me!

From what I've heard, Nickelback's non-radio stuff differs from their radio stuff, it's the radio stuff that plays it safe enough to get past the suits and ties and put on the airwaves. Meanwhile, it seems like Korn has been releasing the same damn song forever, single or non-single. Even the dubstep-infused songs they did with Skrillex, while cool, doesn't stray too far from their original formula.

Plus, does Korn even get radio play anymore? I heard "Freak on a Leash" years back and haven't heard anything since, they must have a seriously dedicated fan base.

 

[SWeAT hOg]

Did somebody say "badass, underrated down-tuned Sabbath song?"

Black Sabbath - A National Acrobat - YouTube

Or this??
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mda8RBiEkcc]Into The Void - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Kamen_Kaiju]

You do know that the first Sabbath album which is the archetype/beginning of heavy music was played in E.

I'll take that as a no.

You do know I was playing that entire album by the time I was 11?

I'll take that as a no.