The Governator has a LOVE CHILD...

[Joeydego]

T-3 and he looked great.

He said dianabol was the breakfast of champions I think his deal was proviron and dianabol and probably test suspension....ouch

THAT combo would send libido thru the roof. There is a breaking point tho, where libido does just kind of crash, especially if you're having lots of sex. Dbols are real poison but work VERY fast and are VERY effective. It's really hard to juice and NOT want to have sex every minute of the day. Not making any excuses for the man, but not passing judgement, either. HIS marriage, HIS oath, HIS god means what it means to HIM. HIS moral and value system and his reasons have to be valid to HIM. Thats it.

 

[Hamtone]

I have no desire to pry, as you put it--Just said that humans with these sort of character flaws, and any way you slice it, this is a character flaw, should not have positions of power and influence--

I know plenty of rich, powerful, good looking, ugly, left wing, right wing--both wing, no wing, funny, boring, poor and and unknown people that are forever faithful to their spouses--It's not that hard---Really, trust me---

Not to sound like a complete dick, but why is this the end all be all of a persons character?

In my estimation you are imposing YOUR set of right and wrongs on someone when they can look in your life and see something they dont approve. The standard of right and wrong in my personal opinion is, dont do anything to lead to another humans death except in defense of you and your people and do not steal. Outside of that, whatever a person chooses is their biz, not mine. Honor whoever you choose, whether god, woman/man, whatever you do yours i do mine.

 

[Joeydego]

So long as he isn't running for an office, you're right.

But when a man is running for office, examining his integrity isn't just smart, it's vital. And the seriousness -- or lack thereof --with which he follows a solemn oath is pertinent information regarding, as Blues4U points out, the seriousness with which he he approaches solemn oaths in general.

Well, that LOOKS all nice and proper in writing, but the truth of the matter is we the people don't elect officials to represent us. We elect a stubborn, corrupt ruling class filled with D's and R's alike. The best we can hope for is they do things that are popular, effect us the least and benefit us the most. Guys like Arnold and the rest of them don't run for office for the money. I'm sure his pay cut was enormous. They do it for power. From your meter maid all the way up to the president of the USA, the oath means very little. They may claim to be upholding the oath thru official conduct, but the truth for most is it feeds their insatiable appetite for power and to be a part of some sort of ruling class. I've seen it firsthand, worked in it, and have been appalled by it many many times.

 

[Blues4U]

Not to sound like a complete dick, but why is this the end all be all of a persons character?

In my estimation you are imposing YOUR set of right and wrongs on someone when they can look in your life and see something they dont approve. The standard of right and wrong in my personal opinion is, dont do anything to lead to another humans death except in defense of you and your people and do not steal. Outside of that, whatever a person chooses is their biz, not mine. Honor whoever you choose, whether god, woman/man, whatever you do yours i do mine.

If his word to his wife can't be trusted, why would anybody assume he will me more loyal to his constituants.

We are not asking who we want on our side in a bar fight--We are asking who we want to be the keeper of the public good---If a man can't show a commitment to his family, he won't show a true commitment to his constituants--imo--

Not really a moral thing, its a reality thing--If I see you screwing around on your wife, then in the next breath, you ask me to TRUST YOU--it aint happenin'---

Make Sense?

 

[Kashmir]

Everyone makes mistakes in life. We're all only human. I firmly believe that we all make mistakes; it's just that our mistakes happen in different ways and take different form. Good people suffer for their mistakes. You have to accept the fact that a mistake was made and just get on with life, in hope that you won't make too many more. It's all part of life.

 

[Blues4U]

Well, that LOOKS all nice and proper in writing, but the truth of the matter is we the people don't elect officials to represent us. We elect a stubborn, corrupt ruling class filled with D's and R's alike. The best we can hope for is they do things that are popular, effect us the least and benefit us the most. Guys like Arnold and the rest of them don't run for office for the money. I'm sure his pay cut was enormous. They do it for power. From your meter maid all the way up to the president of the USA, the oath means very little. They may claim to be upholding the oath thru official conduct, but the truth for most is it feeds their insatiable appetite for power and to be a part of some sort of ruling class. I've seen it firsthand, worked in it, and have been appalled by it many many times.

If this is true---Whos fault is this?

I have made a proclaimation to myself for the next Presidential Election.

If I am not in line with the Candidate of the party I usually support, I will vote libertarian--Even though, this time around, I know a Libertarian will not win---I really had to hold my nose when I voted for McCain--That crap ain't happening again----

 

[mtgguitar]

He's been an animal since he was young, he likes the ladies but cannot control himself. He's a groper.

 

[Joeydego]

I have no desire to pry, as you put it--Just said that humans with these sort of character flaws, and any way you slice it, this is a character flaw, should not have positions of power and influence--

I know plenty of rich, powerful, good looking, ugly, left wing, right wing--both wing, no wing, funny, boring, poor and and unknown people that are forever faithful to their spouses--It's not that hard---Really, trust me---

Evidently, you hold the sanctity of marriage very close to your heart and this is commendable. I'm sure your spouse, if you have one, is very grateful for this. However, this is YOUR belief system which is fine by YOU. YOUR belief system puts marriage on the top of the pile of whats sacred, and really, good for you. Its admirable. I would now add a little sympathy, understanding, patience and love of your fellow man to your core values. Things happen for a reason. Stepping out on marriage is as much of a character flaw as homosexuality. To think up until 1970 it was considered mental illness. How far have we come since then? Where will marriage be in 40 years? Whats really the difference?

 

[Joeydego]

If this is true---Whos fault is this?

its the fault of a population more interested in derek jeter and what his batting average is.

I have made a proclaimation to myself for the next Presidential Election.

If I am not in line with the Candidate of the party I usually support, I will vote libertarian--Even though, this time around, I know a Libertarian will not win---I really had to hold my nose when I voted for McCain--That crap ain't happening again----

I wish it were as simple as voting the bums out of office. It isn't. You cant fight human nature. Power corrupts in most. It's just the way it is. A few get busted and made examples of. The rest will skate and deals will be made every day that undermine the public good in the name of money and power. I wish there was a less bleak scenario, but there isnt.

 

[Blues4U]

Evidently, you hold the sanctity of marriage very close to your heart and this is commendable. I'm sure your spouse, if you have one, is very grateful for this. However, this is YOUR belief system which is fine by YOU. YOUR belief system puts marriage on the top of the pile of whats sacred, and really, good for you. Its admirable. I would now add a little sympathy, understanding, patience and love of your fellow man to your core values. Things happen for a reason. Stepping out on marriage is as much of a character flaw as homosexuality. To think up until 1970 it was considered mental illness. How far have we come since then? Where will marriage be in 40 years? Whats really the difference?

If one doesn't believe in the sanctity of marriage--the simple solution is to not get married.

Did you read my blurb about "It's not really about morals, its about reality: ? If we had an openly gay politition that was in a long term, monogamous relationship, I would hold that person to the same standard as a married hetero sexual---

If you will not honor commitments to the ones you love, you will not honor commitments to those you have not even met--That's my point-

You assume that infidelity only hurts the spouse? It affects the entire family and circle of friends as well---

People that cheat are shallow and selfish for the most part--Or easily manipulated--I do not want either in charge of my money or my government.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

Well, that LOOKS all nice and proper in writing, but the truth of the matter is we the people don't elect officials to represent us. We elect a stubborn, corrupt ruling class filled with D's and R's alike. The best we can hope for is they do things that are popular, effect us the least and benefit us the most. Guys like Arnold and the rest of them don't run for office for the money. I'm sure his pay cut was enormous. They do it for power. From your meter maid all the way up to the president of the USA, the oath means very little. They may claim to be upholding the oath thru official conduct, but the truth for most is it feeds their insatiable appetite for power and to be a part of some sort of ruling class. I've seen it firsthand, worked in it, and have been appalled by it many many times.

Of course -- all politicians are shitheads to one extent or another. However, this is a working metric on exactly how dishonest a person is, because you and I both know that the scale between honesty and dishonesty is a continuum; and a man who would violate a solemn vow to the person he claims to love most, a vow often made "in the presence" of his god or god(s), is obviously a little further down the scale than the guy who says, "No, hon, that doesn't make you look fat."

 

[Blues4U]

its the fault of a population more interested in derek jeter and what his batting average is.


I wish it were as simple as voting the bums out of office. It isn't. You cant fight human nature. Power corrupts in most. It's just the way it is. A few get busted and made examples of. The rest will skate and deals will be made every day that undermine the public good in the name of money and power. I wish there was a less bleak scenario, but there isnt.

This truth is so, because we all allow it to be so.

Gather your pitchforks and run them out on a rail--I believe that is the nexus of the Tea Party movement, although they have been made to look like right wing cooks--They are people from all walks of life that are sick, and tired of the status quo--I even know left wingers that participate in Tea Party Rallys--They tell me it is the one thing that brings them together with right wingers--distain for the status quo---

 

[Hamtone]

If one doesn't believe in the sanctity of marriage--the simple solution is to not get married.

Did you read my blurb about "It's not really about morals, its about reality: ? If we had an openly gay politition that was in a long term, monogamous relationship, I would hold that person to the same standard as a married hetero sexual---

If you will not honor commitments to the ones you love, you will not honor commitments to those you have not even met--That's my point-

You assume that infidelity only hurts the spouse? It affects the entire family and circle of friends as well---

People that cheat are shallow and selfish for the most part--Or easily manipulated--I do not want either in charge of my money or my government.

Im kind of pushing it a bit, but I dont know what his vows to her were or her to him. Yes there are standards but when i got married none of that was in the vows. No till death do us part or any of that crap, good thing because I would have had to kill her

 

[Blues4U]

Im kind of pushing it a bit, but I dont know what his vows to her were or her to him. Yes there are standards but when i got married none of that was in the vows. No till death do us part or any of that crap, good thing because I would have had to kill her

I am pretty sure that in all Western Societies, it goes unsaid and is understood, that if you are bothering to have a wedding ceremony, your days of whoring around are suppose to be over---

 

[John]

"Who is your daddy and what does he do..?"

"My daddy is actually the Governator."

 

[Hamtone]

I am pretty sure that in all Western Societies, it goes unsaid and is understood, that if you are bothering to have a wedding ceremony, your days of whoring around are suppose to be over---

What if you are both into it? Or what about other woman in the bedroom etc etc etc idk just say'n

 

[Blues4U]

"Who is your daddy and what does he do..?"

"My daddy is actually the Governator."

I don't have a daddy--I have a sperm donor----I doubt he has been any sort of father if this has been a 10 year secret---

 

[Blues4U]

What if you are both into it? Or what about other woman in the bedroom etc etc etc idk just say'n

I didn't say, not did you say, we were taliking about swingers or those that are into and open about liberal doses of other partners--I assumed we were talking about MOST married couple, or long term, monogamous relationships-

 

[Hamtone]

I didn't say, not did you say, we were taliking about swingers or those that are into and open about liberal doses of other partners--I assumed we were talking about MOST married couple, or long term, monogamous relationships-

I say fk it and be single and fk em all Screw this family crap and wives and blech blech blech

 

[Blues4U]

I say fk it and be single and fk em all Screw this family crap and wives and blech blech blech

That's my point--If you don't like the game--Don't play.