new user need help please

[bogeywon]

The only part about your thread that kinda bothers me is the word "collectible". "Playable" should be the key word but, hey, it's your thing not mine.

So here's some suggestions:

Very Rare PRS Semi-Hollow Single Cut in Jet White - eBay (item 300427995323 end time May-22-10 10:35:52 PDT)

PRS McCarty Brazilian # 71/500 57/08 Pickups Near MINT! - eBay (item 150442278507 end time May-19-10 21:57:17 PDT)



Paul Reed Smith (PRS) African Queen (Limited Edition) - eBay (item 320520110028 end time May-19-10 11:40:41 PDT)

Also, keep an eye out for early (1985-1988) PRS guitars. They will be the next '59 Les Pauls.

i agree i think im gonna just shred the shit out of everything i can find and pick one!!

 

[bogeywon]

If you have 3k, get an R9 or a really nice R8. Or if you wanna save some cash get the Traditional. Traditionals are quiet nice players. I dunno what your amp situation is but, I'd get a Traditional and a nice tube head with 3k rather than a RI but, if you already have a good amp, get an RI.

i run a mesa single reck with a marshall 1960a cab... i played that traditional through it and WOW~! almost griped it on the spot!

 

[Big Red]

You can get a used Gibson Historic Reissue like an R0 or R9 for that price.
Even a new one if you buy from a dealer like Jeff's Guitar Vault or Mark's Guitar Loft.
*In case you don't know, Historic Reissues are guitars made by Gibson, but they are higher quality guitars than USA Gibsons like the Traditional (better woods, electronics, etc.).
Good luck.

+1, listen to this guy. Check out local classifieds etc. and see it there are any second hand R4/6/7/8/9s etc. in your area you can look at and try.

The USA Gibsons are great guitars, no argument. But if you're looking to spend $2-3k you don't want to buy a USA Les Paul and find yourself jonesing for a Historic Re-Issue in 6 months time .... And if you buy the right Historic you'll be in the best possible situation if you decide to sell.

The fact that you're posting here suggests you want a Les Paul, and for the money you're talking I would go for a Historic. But take your time and learn as much as you can about the different models, humbuckers vs. P90 pickups, wraptail/stoptail, 'burst/goldtop etc.

Shopping for vintage or even Norlin era - I wouldn't recommend unless you really know what you're doing. Many bargains at this time, but far more pitfalls. You can't go too far wrong with Historic, I'd try for an R8 or try and grab a bargain on a R9. Good luck!

 

[Torren61]

Just don't tell anyone how much you have to spend. I have a '77 LP and a '94 PRS. Apples and oranges when it comes to tone. There are demos of both on my soundclick page. The Earthbranes are the LP and the Holmes pups are the PRS.

PRS guitars are excellent guitars. '94 down are your best bet but most can be had for way less than 3k.

Norlins are Gibson's next collectibles as time goes on. An unmodified '77 down should be whithin your budget. Even one modified on the electronics only can be put back to original for less than a fortune.

In 10 years you won't be able to afford one.

A Warrior Isabella recently came through Member Classifieds that would have been under your budget.

 

[Torren61]

There's an '84 Custom on Classifieds here but no price. Make an offer and hope he didn't see this thread. heh heh

 

[emoney]

Lot's of advice been given out here, however.....

What do you consider 'collectable' and/or 'investment'? Those are two
different words with two totally different meanings. If you're looking to
buy a guitar that you can turn around in a couple of years and profit 30-40%
on, you've already been given an answer.
If, however, you want to buy a nice instrument and maybe sell it in 15-20 years
and get your money back, then you have lots of options and the standard
you played and loved already fits that bill.
A 1976 AMC Pacer, right now, in perfectly mint condition is worth more than what
it would have cost new in 1976. Had you asked anybody that year if they
thought the car was a good investment or collectible, you would have been laughed
at for days on end. I'd still laugh at you, honestly, but the point is, while
nobody can predict the future, just about anything you buy, and keep in close to
mint condition, will give you a return years from now. It's all perspective. Play 'em,
and the one that 'calls' to you, buy it and don't care what it's gonna be worth or
not worth........

 

[bogeywon]

hey guys thanks for all the info! i think i may have found it~ a 2010 honey burst traditional.... its been in my dreams since ive played it!

 

[emoney]

+1 ^^ that's how you know if it's a "good investment". Pics or it didn't happen!!

 

[GibsonByBirth]

Try the Gibson Tribute. There were only 560 some odd made.

 

[scottyray1970]

If it's investment you may be interested in, i do have an 82' les paul
standard in the classifieds for $2000, it's creeping up on 30 years old now.
Whatever you want to do i think you've received some very sage advice from all who have posted. Go with your gut

 

[scottyray1970]

Just don't tell anyone how much you have to spend. I have a '77 LP and a '94 PRS. Apples and oranges when it comes to tone. There are demos of both on my soundclick page. The Earthbranes are the LP and the Holmes pups are the PRS.

PRS guitars are excellent guitars. '94 down are your best bet but most can be had for way less than 3k.

Norlins are Gibson's next collectibles as time goes on. An unmodified '77 down should be whithin your budget. Even one modified on the electronics only can be put back to original for less than a fortune.

In 10 years you won't be able to afford one.

A Warrior Isabella recently came through Member Classifieds that would have been under your budget.

A very interesting opinion. I am really sitting on the fence on wether to sell my 82 standard for that very reason.

 

[Torren61]

hey guys thanks for all the info! i think i may have found it~ a 2010 honey burst traditional.... its been in my dreams since ive played it!

Ok, I went through all the trouble to look up all these "investment" and "collectible" guitars for you and THAT'S what you pick... grrr.

Well, I hope you drop the "investment" part and start thinking of the "playing" part. Dude, I have a '77 LP I customized. There is no way I can get back what I've put into it but she plays like a dream.

What would you rather have for the next year... a guitar you can make $500 off of but doesn't "feel" right in your hands or a guitar that you LOVE to play but you can't get what you paid for it but don't want to sell because she plays so well?

Does that make sense?

 

[Torren61]

A very interesting opinion. I am really sitting on the fence on wether to sell my 82 standard for that very reason.

OMG! You're listening to ME?

 

[bogeywon]

Ok, I went through all the trouble to look up all these "investment" and "collectible" guitars for you and THAT'S what you pick... grrr.

Well, I hope you drop the "investment" part and start thinking of the "playing" part. Dude, I have a '77 LP I customized. There is no way I can get back what I've put into it but she plays like a dream.

What would you rather have for the next year... a guitar you can make $500 off of but doesn't "feel" right in your hands or a guitar that you LOVE to play but you can't get what you paid for it but don't want to sell because she plays so well?

Does that make sense?

no i looked at what you suggested and listen to your post... i asked myself "do i want an investment or a playable axe?" and decided that the answer was the traditional was thhe guitar i wanted because who knows whats gonna be collectible so i might as well pick the most playable to me... so i took your advice and defined what i wanted! thank you

 

[jomo]

Getcha a used R8 and pocket several hundred of that!

 

[bogeywon]

Getcha a used R8 and pocket several hundred of that!

thats a naughty axe there man!! good work!!

 

[bogeywon]

Very excited to get the new axe friday!

 

[android13]

Um… if you're looking for an investment, why not buy some stock in the stock market?

 

[KWKSLVR]

Um… if you're looking for an investment, why not buy some stock in the stock market?

+1000

Invest in investments. Buy a guitar to play. Personally, a guitar I held for 20-30 years would be pretty sentimental and would have to be worth a substantial amount of cash to part with it. Heck, I've had my first Epiphone LP since 1997. It would take 4x what it's worth for me to part with it. Actually, maybe more - and that's not even a nice guitar.

In all reality, very few "collectible's" are going to be worth more money than you could have averaged in the stock market in a good mutual fund over 20 or 30 years. Now, not to say that you can't have a cool hobby and maybe make a bit here and there on it, but I wouldn't do my investing in guitars, collectible cars, etc.

 

[Skintaster]

+1000

Invest in investments. Buy a guitar to play. Personally, a guitar I held for 20-30 years would be pretty sentimental and would have to be worth a substantial amount of cash to part with it. Heck, I've had my first Epiphone LP since 1997. It would take 4x what it's worth for me to part with it. Actually, maybe more - and that's not even a nice guitar.

In all reality, very few "collectible's" are going to be worth more money than you could have averaged in the stock market in a good mutual fund over 20 or 30 years. Now, not to say that you can't have a cool hobby and maybe make a bit here and there on it, but I wouldn't do my investing in guitars, collectible cars, etc.

I agree. And if I WERE interested in buying a guitar mainly as an investment, I'd save up and buy something vintage enough to have proven upward financial movement. A Gibson or Fender from the early to mid 60's perhaps. And like all investing, the vintage guitar market has lost a lot of steam lately.

Buying a modern Les Paul isn't a sure thing for future investment purposes, but if you find o good one, you'll have a quality instrument that a lot of people will admire.