Woman Alleges Former Anthrax Guitarist Dan Spitz Raped Her

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So are you saying that you have walked through a protocology convention, naked and bent over, gotten poked 20 years ago?
Hey leave Mal's fetishes out of it
 

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We knew it was only a matter of time. I wonder how many 14 and 15 year old girls ended up backstage at these shows WAY over their heads. Tip of the ice burg, its gonna get really ugly I have a feeling

We should start a pool to see who can guess what the next media wide outrage is going to be.
 

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Massive difference between an asshole making a former lovers life miserable and announcing to the world that you were sexually assaulted.

except she wasn't a former lover and I'd had no involvement with her, she was just a crazy woman who liked me and concocted this whole imaginative romance in her head. Then she went around telling people about it.
My wife was not amused and I'm pretty sure it's one of the things that prompted my divorce.

Good Times!
 

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I agree that this is just an accusation. However, when there is absolutely nothing to be gained when a woman speaks out, I tend believe her. And when numerous accusations emerge, the guy is a fuckin animal, no doubt.
In some ways your very wise to the world. In others NGG, your naïve imho. Just getting attention, is all the 'gaining' people need now (and we have a plethora of ways for them to get it now too).

There is revenge. This woman may have thrown herself at him back then, and he laughed at her. So, she sees the #meetoo, witchunt mentality going on right now, and decides to get revenge. Can you truthfully say you have never seen a woman hold a grudge?

To avoid repercussions of her choice(s). Woman consents to a bad situation, has parents that she doesn't want angry at her, boyfriend, husband, girlfriend, whatever. So, she says "I was forced".

There is cognitive dissonance. She knows it was a bad choice. She does not want to accept that in herself, boom, he forced me, so no more dissonance.

I can go on and on with scenarios (and all the above HAVE been the motivations behind documented false allegations) with non delusional, non obvious 'benefit' or 'gain'.

The naivety, I postulate, you have, is that you see women as not flawed. But we all are flawed.
 

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We knew it was only a matter of time. I wonder how many 14 and 15 year old girls ended up backstage at these shows WAY over their heads. Tip of the ice burg, its gonna get really ugly I have a feeling
I don't think UGLY is a good word for this. But it's close.
 

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In some ways your very wise to the world. In others NGG, your naïve imho. Just getting attention, is all the 'gaining' people need now (and we have a plethora of ways for them to get it now too).

There is revenge. This woman may have thrown herself at him back then, and he laughed at her. So, she sees the #meetoo, witchunt mentality going on right now, and decides to get revenge. Can you truthfully say you have never seen a woman hold a grudge?

To avoid repercussions of her choice(s). Woman consents to a bad situation, has parents that she doesn't want angry at her, boyfriend, husband, girlfriend, whatever. So, she says "I was forced".

There is cognitive dissonance. She knows it was a bad choice. She does not want to accept that in herself, boom, he forced me, so no more dissonance.

I can go on and on with scenarios (and all the above HAVE been the motivations behind documented false allegations) with non delusional, non obvious 'benefit' or 'gain'.

The naivety, I postulate, you have, is that you see women as not flawed. But we all are flawed.
And you know all this? And you call me naïve?

Nobody knew about this and rare is the person who comes forward decades later because they felt rejected.

And once again, you don't know fuck all about me or my experiences.
 

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So you're saying she was "Caught in a Mosh"
 

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And you know all this? And you call me naïve? lol
I don't follow your question,

I gave you 'reasons' found to be at the bottom of actual false allegations. All of which presented as 'nothing to gain' for the woman making the accusations, yet all false. All, btw, were also national media frenzy stories too.
 

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I don't follow your question,

I gave you 'reasons' found to be at the bottom of actual false allegations. All of which presented as 'nothing to gain' for the woman making the accusations, yet all false. All, btw, were also national media frenzy stories too.
What will this woman gain? She'll be forgotten by tomorrow.
 

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What will this woman gain? She'll be forgotten by tomorrow.
I'm sure I don't know. It could be the '15 minutes'. That cliché is a cliché, because oh so many people do things all the time for that brief time in the spotlight, and then are forgotten. It could be 'comradery' and acceptance of others, cause that is happening to all the #metoos.. It could be revenge.

If she is making it up, only she knows. But, as pointed out, just because it isn't obvious to you, or me, doesn't mean there isn't some 'benefit' to her, even if it is some internal pathology.

I'd even argue, that, in today's (as in right now, with the #metoo, the way you, the media, etc are just believing with no vetteing) climate makes it even more prone for false allegations for whatever motivation, to happen. Right now, they know there is likely little repercussions for it. Mob mentality is in full force.
 

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