Wiring Library

[brp]

I just finished up wiring a new burstbucker pro in my LP with 50's style w/ independent volumes with the help of this thread. Thanks guys.

I won't get to really put it through it's paces until tomorrow, it's too late, but I tested it enough to know it works as it's supposed to.

 

[deni]

ok about this i was asking its was simple to understand me thanks
i ll use 0.47 capacitor is alternative way not buy gibson 17 dollars push-full pots and buy some cheaper? and i want to change 3way switch can u gave me advice which buy

 

[Indyclone]

ok about this i was asking its was simple to understand me thanks
i ll use 0.47 capacitor is alternative way not buy gibson 17 dollars push-full pots and buy some cheaper? and i want to change 3way switch can u gave me advice which buy

That's one thing I don't like about the SD diagrams... they ALL have .047 caps... I'd go with 0.15 to 0.22 caps on a les paul.

Switchcraft 3-way switch... they're around $20, and alpha DPDT Push-Pull 500k pots are around $10-$11. Guitar Parts | Bass Guitar Parts | Amp Parts | AllParts.com should have them.

 

[brp]

I'm having an issue with the "50's style with independent volumes" wiring.
I have a thread about it started if anyone could help me out here:
http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/tonefreaks/129435-wiring-problem-switch-bleed-w-independent-volumes.html

Or you could respond in this thread instead (or also) if you think that would be better.
Thanks for any help you can offer.

 

[deni]

thanks you are man

 

[SKATTERBRANE]

In my experience it only does that with Seymour Duncan pu's for some reason? With Gibson and Sheptone pu's there are no "dead spots" on the SD JP switching. for some reason

I find with Gibson and SKATTERBRANE, the kill is moved to the treble position when the series/parallel pot (neck tone pot) is pulled. And in the middle postion with that same pot pulled, the neck volume becomes master volume and the treble volume has no effect. There is more than one why to wire the 21 tone JP 4 push/pull pot feature. And the results are not always the same.

The one I am using is pretty straight forward, in middle position: when I pull the neck tone, no matter what else I do, it is ALWAYS in series. When I pull the bridge tone, no matter what else I do it is ALWAYS out of phase.

With SD, in phase or out of phase is also affected by which coil you are tapping. So, it can get confusing unless you memorize each combination. I still get 21 combos, but they are different combos.

 

[Neiluj]

Greetings all - first post here. I spent quite a bit of time reading through the wiring library and thought I had things all figured out.

The equipment:
Ibanez AS73
Seymour Duncan P-Rails (bridge and neck)
Seymour Duncan Triple Shots
Orange Drop 0.015mf (neck) and 0.022 (bridge)
2 500k audio taper pots (volume)
2 500k audio taper push/pulls (tone)

The goal:
Incorporate 50's wiring to the SD wiring diagram for triple shots using a push pull for phase, and a push pull for putting the pickups in series/parallel (in middle position)

I began with the SD diagram and the 50's diagram below and ended up with the last.

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Now what I found strange about the original SD diagram is that it has the leads from the bridge pickup going to the neck volume and the neck pickup to the bridge volume. In my final product, I reversed this (which may be the source of my problem, but I thought I would throw it out there for the experts before I go tearing into my semi-hollow again).

The Result:
The guitar sounds great. All switches work as they should, with the exception of the volume pots. When I roll the volume all the way down (to zero) I still get sounds coming through the amp. This happens with all selector switch settings.

I appreciate all responses.

Hi everyone,
I've only found this thread today... I wish to do about the same to my Ibanez AS73T-TRD !
Does someone know which type of triple shots I need ? Flat or LP Style ?

Best,
Julien

 

[dogbone94]

tag....

 

[longan]

I have a request for you guys, I have a strat that I recently fitted two 'buckers to. I later found out the one I didn't change is too weak (the bridge is 14K, the neck is 12K, the middle is 5K) So I'm changing it for a more powerful single coil size 'bucker which has 4 conductors. I'll be soon changing the other two 'buckers to 4 conductors so I plan to make the three coil taps for them with a 5-way switch so give me the capability of having a normal strat as well as a black beauty (I know it won't be as dark as one but you get the idea)
Can anyone help with a diagram for this?

 

[longan]

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[jonesy]

I have a request for you guys, I have a strat that I recently fitted two 'buckers to. I later found out the one I didn't change is too weak (the bridge is 14K, the neck is 12K, the middle is 5K) So I'm changing it for a more powerful single coil size 'bucker which has 4 conductors. I'll be soon changing the other two 'buckers to 4 conductors so I plan to make the three coil taps for them with a 5-way switch so give me the capability of having a normal strat as well as a black beauty (I know it won't be as dark as one but you get the idea)
Can anyone help with a diagram for this?

You will probably need a 5 way super switch for something like that.

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Components:_Switches_and_knobs/Super_Switch.html

STEWMAC.COM : Instructions for Super Switch

 

[longan]

So this is basically what I'd be doing? Except with a second tone

 

[GusKP]

hello to all of you. I have no idea about wiring a guitar! but i will try (and learn how to) to rewire a les paul to 50's style from scratch! i noticed, when i went to buy capacitors, that i need to numbers, one number for the uF thing and also the Volts... What type of capacitors do i need?

 

[Indyclone]

hello to all of you. I have no idea about wiring a guitar! but i will try (and learn how to) to rewire a les paul to 50's style from scratch! i noticed, when i went to buy capacitors, that i need to numbers, one number for the uF thing and also the Volts... What type of capacitors do i need?

.015 to .022 uF are ideal for most humbuckers

and voltage doesn't really matter, the lower the voltage the smaller they are... but Les Paul cavities are large enough to hold up to 600 volt caps in most brands of PIO's (Paper in Oil). 200 volts I believe is what they came stock back when Gibson still used them.

 

[GusKP]

.015 to .022 uF are ideal for most humbuckers

and voltage doesn't really matter, the lower the voltage the smaller they are... but Les Paul cavities are large enough to hold up to 600 volt caps in most brands of PIO's (Paper in Oil). 200 volts I believe is what they came stock back when Gibson still used them.

Thank you for you reply!
how does the uF thing affects the hole board? shall i use other type for neck and bridge?

 

[dogbone94]

Thank you for you reply!
how does the uF thing affects the hole board? shall i use other type for neck and bridge?

i use 22's in both positions but, i did like the 47s in both positions also......

 

[Indyclone]

Thank you for you reply!
how does the uF thing affects the hole board? shall i use other type for neck and bridge?

the uF... the higher the number, the more tone you can roll off.

So, with a .047, you will be able to take more of the highs away than you will a .015. A .015 will not roll off near as much as a .047, the reason to use a .015 over a .047 is based on what's useful to you, your guitar and your pickups.

Also, some claim that a .047 will sound darker than a .015 even if your tone control is all the way up at 10.... I haven't noticed that, but it's possible.

 

[Indyclone]

I just read that 400 volt caps were used by Gibson when they used PIOs... so, I stand corrected.

 

[GusKP]

I just read that 400 volt caps were used by Gibson when they used PIOs... so, I stand corrected.

Thank you! I just bought two Sprague Orange Drop 715 .022μF 600V Capacitors I hope they will work...

Also I just noticed that the actual letter is μ and not u !!! I know what is the μF (GO ME!!!!!!)

 

[guitarrelic]

Hi everybody,

i will begin to build a jimmy page push-pull config and I will use seymour duncan schematic that i have see on the thread.

I've just a question regarding the push pull pots.

It has to 500ko. but there's 2 differents.The audio taper pots (A model) and the linear pots (B model).

I understand that A model should be used for Tone and the B model for Volume.

Is it right in the jimmy page wiring from Seymour Duncan???

thanks for any help

PS : Sorry for my bad English but it's my native language!