wiring and cap question

[randelli]

little help please.....

I am in the process of modifying my Hamer studio. I have installed SD '59s in the neck and bridge position and now I want to complete the wiring by installing an orange drop. The guitar is volume/volume/tone and all of the diagrams I can find are for the standard volume/tone, volume tone.

How do I install the orange drop? Do I need 1 cap for each volume to the single tone; or do I just need 1 cap.

thanks for your advice!

 

[jonesy]

little help please.....

I am in the process of modifying my Hamer studio. I have installed SD '59s in the neck and bridge position and now I want to complete the wiring by installing an orange drop. The guitar is volume/volume/tone and all of the diagrams I can find are for the standard volume/tone, volume tone.

How do I install the orange drop? Do I need 1 cap for each volume to the single tone; or do I just need 1 cap.

thanks for your advice!

Thanks for the email I found your question!

1. Here is a link to Wiring diagram at Seymour Duncan website 2 Hum 2 Vol. 1 Tone 3 way

2. You may want to consider a Paper in Oil .022 capacitor versus polypropylene Orange drop cap? IMO Oil caps are much smoother, and will produce a more "Vocal" tone. Cap in wiring diagram is a .047, but I would go with a .022 or .015 for less muddy bass and more mid crunch.

3. You only need 1 cap and it goes on your Tone control, this wiring shows cap going from center lug and grounding back to case.

Now that you have the diagram I think you will be ok, it is easy to follow and clearly shows all connections.
Peace, jonesy

 

[randelli]

Thanks Jonesy!

here are a few more questions that came up while reading other posts last night.

1) what is the "woman tone"?

2) what pots should I install? I have dime size pots now and was going to install 500K.

3) with 2 conductor pups; is there any push/pull, series/parallel, in/out phase, magnetic phase mods I can do to add variety?

4) finally, the PIO caps, where can I get the real deal no fakie caps?

Thanks again!

 

[jonesy]

Thanks Jonesy!

here are a few more questions that came up while reading other posts last night.

1) what is the "woman tone"?

2) what pots should I install? I have dime size pots now and was going to install 500K.

3) with 2 conductor pups; is there any push/pull, series/parallel, in/out phase, magnetic phase mods I can do to add variety?

4) finally, the PIO caps, where can I get the real deal no fakie caps?

Thanks again!

1. Claptons "woman tone" comes from around the Cream era and is produced by rolling off the Tone control almost all the way and along with distortion gives you a Dark Vocal Tone, dubbed the "woman tone" by somebody?

2. You can't go wrong with full US size CTS 500K Pots Allparts Houston Texas 3/8" threaded shafts should work in your Hamer ok unless it has thicker top, then you may need the 3/4" threaded long shaft pots?

3. You are somewhat limited with 2 wires, but you can still do series/parallel mod and phasing between neck and bridge with push-pull. Look in the Seymour Duncan wiring library link I sent you, under humbuckers or other. it shows you how to do all those mods...

4. Jonesyblues Custom Shop

 

[randelli]

I was able to clean up the tone pot enough to see it is an Alpha 500K. Are these good pots or should I replace them? They are dime sized pots and I originally thought they were cheap little 250K pots.

What do you think?

 

[randelli]

*****UPDATE*****

I have the CTS 500K pots installed with treble bleed kits on the two volumes. I am having trouble with getting any adjustment on the tone pot. I have attached clips to test out different caps but they all sound the same and there is no sweep on the pot at all - it sounds the same at 0 or 11. If I attach the clips together with no cap in between the tone pot acts like a master volume - kinda cool but not what I am looking for.

I have arranged the leads on the pot in every configuration I can think of but it all sounds the same. Any ideas out there???

 

[dwagar]

check the connection on the cap - that's where the tone hides. The SD wiring diagram Jonesy posted above is correct, I used that when I rewired my Melody Maker.

 

[randelli]

SHEESH!!

Note to self: Turn up the amp if you want to hear tones. I had the volume way down to not annoy our house guests. Cranked it last night and it works fine.

Getting some .015 Vitamin Q's that should make everything just right.