will these gotoh locking fit my 2009 traditional?

[diogoguitar]

https://www.ebay.com/p/GOTOH%2DNickel%2D3x3%2DLocking%2DButton%2DTuners%2DVintage%2DLes%2DPaul%2DSG%2DGuitar%2DTk%2D0736%2D001/2197246996?iid=253110161617#UserReviews

I don't want to drill/enlarge any holes because if I ever sell this guitar I want to put the original tuners back on.

Here is my guitar:

 

[SGeoff]

I usually don't tell folks what to do...i'll make an exception in this case-your lucky day! there is no reason to do this, unless one of your original tuners has gone bad. it does, as you are obviously aware, deter from the originality of the guitar. it will not be "better" as long as you know how to properly wrap the string around the post. it is 40 to 60 bucks you don't need to spend. your money will be better spent trying to figure out why they made your backwards

 

[Skyjerk]

I usually don't tell folks what to do...i'll make an exception in this case-your lucky day! there is no reason to do this, unless one of your original tuners has gone bad. it does, as you are obviously aware, deter from the originality of the guitar. it will not be "better" as long as you know how to properly wrap the string around the post. it is 40 to 60 bucks you don't need to spend. your money will be better spent trying to figure out why they made your backwards

If this were my guitar I'd want to change the tuners because I think the original tuners are ugly. However, I'd keep the original tuners for the same reason the OP stated.

This is a perfectly valid reason. Your statement "there is no reason to do this, unless one of your original tuners has gone bad." is factually incorrect. Its only your personal opinion that theres no good reason to do it because you obviously like them, OR you are one of those guys that frown on anyone making any changes to Les Pauls from their factory configurations because its just wrong

I dont know that this was the OP's reason for wanting to change tuners, since he didnt actually say why.
His reasons are his own. Maybe he didnt spell them out because maybe he wasnt interested in hearing subjective, biased opinions and just wanted to know if those tuners would fit

 

[SGeoff]

well, will they?

 

[Paul46]

They will, but you'll need to get conversion bushings. The Gotohs use push in bushings (vintage style) while the Gibson has the modern wider bolt bushing.

It actually says that in the ebay description!

 

[diogoguitar]

Thanks for the replies so far. Yeah I read that the description says "modern needs conversion", but my guitar is "vintage style", whatever that means for the bolt placement/width.
I just want the locking functionality. These Kluson that came with the guitar are great, although I feel the Gotoh-branded ones have a more accurate turning for my taste.

 

[jkes01]

I can’t say for sure, but you can measure.

You can also get them cheaper here with free shipping over $50.

https://www.philadelphialuthiertool...king-kluson-style-3-x-3-guitar-tuners-nickel/

They have the bushings as well. You’ll likely need the larger bushings to cover the washers. Check the size before you order.

https://www.philadelphialuthiertool...sion-bushings-w-large-flange-set-of-6-nickel/

Good luck and let us know what you do.

 

[Have FUN]

You need tuners made for 10mm holes

The Kluson Revolution are great with 1/19 ratio, they are plug and play.

 

[charisjapan]

@jkes01's solution is pretty good ... I have that exact pairing on a Melody Maker, and those bushings do a nice job of (not quite) covering the marks left by the original washers.

Indeed, the Kluson Revolution is plug-and-play for the 10mm peg holes, but the included bushings look to be "vintage," meaning the flange is small, and might look a bit weird ... especially if the original tuners were tightened down hard and left an impression with the washers. And they're $88.

You might want to pull off the threaded hex bushings and see what's under the washers. This is a common issue with putting traditional pegs on a Traditional.

Cheers!