Will the UK leave the EU (THIS IS NOT POLITICAL)

[KP]

Did I somehow miss where he actually wanted to stay but voted to leave? I thought that the news source had worded it intentionally poorly to stir sh*t, not you.


Edit: I read it again and no I did not. Some of you need to take a deep breath and practice comprehending what you're reading. Adam's entire quote was "My vote -- I didn't think was going to matter too much because I thought we were just going to remain. The David Cameron resignation has blown me away to be honest. I think the period of uncertainty we're going to have for the next few months has been magnified, so I'm quite worried."

Perfectly sensible statement and one that's purposely taken somewhat out of context I bet.

1. He didn't think that his vote was going to matter because he thought that the result of the election would be to stay.
2. The resignation of David Cameron surprised and shocked him--nothing out of the ordinary there, though it was speculated.
3. He thinks that uncertainty over the next few months has been magnified and he's worried about that. Perfectly normal.

Sounds like a perfectly sensible person. He didn't say that he regretted his vote at all. Where do you guys get that he voted opposite what he wanted?? Hell, his very next statement to the interviewer may have been "Still, I think that we made the best decision in a difficult time."

You can believe whatever you wish. From the brief statement he made, it is more likely that he voted out as a lark and if he is young he really wanted to become even more socialistic than the country is now but thought it would be funny to vote that way.

See, my arguments are based on as much "fact" as you know but we draw a different conclusion from a simple statement. I personally think that the UK's withdrawal from the EU is the best thing to happen to that country in 100 years.

 

[ErictheRed]

You can believe whatever you wish. From the brief statement he made, it is more likely that he voted out as a lark and if he is young he really wanted to become even more socialistic than the country is now but thought it would be funny to vote that way.

See, my arguments are based on as much "fact" as you know but we draw a different conclusion from a simple statement. I personally think that the UK's withdrawal from the EU is the best thing to happen to that country in 100 years.

What? Seriously? I don't have any dog in this fight one way or the other, but where do you get all that that he voted out as a lark, really wanted to be more socialistic but thought it would be funny to vote the other way?

I didn't even make an argument based on "fact," as you put it. I simply quoted his entire statement and paraphrased it into statements 1, 2, and 3. Do you take issue with one of those statements, am I misunderstanding what he said? I don't get why people seem to think that he voted out but really wanted in, when in fact it says nothing of the sort. Except that a lot of people are all worked up right now...

 

[KP]

What? Seriously? I don't have any dog in this fight one way or the other, but where do you get all that that he voted out as a lark, really wanted to be more socialistic but thought it would be funny to vote the other way?

I didn't even make an argument based on "fact," as you put it. I simply quoted his entire statement and paraphrased it into statements 1, 2, and 3. Do you take issue with one of those statements, am I misunderstanding what he said? I don't get why people seem to think that he voted out but really wanted in, when in fact it says nothing of the sort. Except that a lot of people are all worked up right now...

I was trying to point out the ridiculousness of either opinion. I normally always tell people here to get all the real facts before making up their minds. I guess you kind of missed that point.

 

[ErictheRed]

I was trying to point out the ridiculousness of either opinion. I normally always tell people here to get all the real facts before making up their minds. I guess you kind of missed that point.

I don't know what you're arguing about, frankly. Whatever point you think I missed is not relevant. Here is what you wrote before:

If he did not think his vote would matter, why vote at all? Voting for the opposite of your belief is just as ridiculous. With those two points considered, he is stupid.

My remarks are not intended to stir sh1t, but are only a comment on human nature.

I don't know how on Earth you decided that he voted for the opposite of his belief, except perhaps that you're all worked up.

 

[KP]

I don't know what you're arguing about, frankly. Whatever point you think I missed is not relevant. Here is what you wrote before:



I don't know how on Earth you decided that he voted for the opposite of his belief, except perhaps that you're all worked up.

Whatever, you win. But I would be highly interested as to how you can Devine "Adam's" intentions. Have a nice day.

 

[Phil47uk]

Corbyn had just sacked Hilary Benn...
Bad move.
Looks like the Labour party is falling to pieces as I type this.
A complete mess within their party and Corbyn really has to go but so far is stubbornly refusing.
The way things are going this could force an early general election.

 

[John Vasco]

So asking that the thread not turn into US style politics, and saying please on top of it is "taking you to task" ??

My comment was aimed at everyone, even though I quoted your post. Most people are able to understand the gentle hint.

But if you're going to attempt to bitch me out over your version of "fair", I can easily turn into quite the overbearing ogre.

Do we really want that?

Don't cross me. Just lighten up. Everyone.

1. With you quoting my post I naturally thought you post was directed at me,that's all. You did not make clear that it was a 'catch-all'.

2. I was making no attempt to 'bitch you out'. Wherever did that come from?

3. You know I have no problem with you, Dave, and that I do not seek to cross you.

I hope the above makes things clearer from my side.

 

[Phil47uk]

Doesn't look as though this on line petition of three million signatures is getting anywhere because as I said last night it now looks as though many posts are coming in from abroad.

 

[Phil47uk]

Labour politicians are resigning at a rate of knots this morning with Corbyn still digging his heels in and refusing to resign. This man could go down in history as the man who destroyed the Labour party..
In fact as I type this yet another Labour minister resigned.
Corbyn is the same twat who campaigned for the past thirty years to actually leave the EU.

 

[Phil47uk]

Remain voters protesting yesterday in London and calling for another referendum..
Many young people , some that didn't even bother voting anyway accusing the older generation of selling them out.
My God, it's just beginning to become apparent just how many younger people have been brainwashed in their educational years. Not surprising really as I was the only one in the staff room of an academy last week who was an out supporter....

 

[wallym]

AlanH posted (RE: the british royal family)
"but there is no doubt that that help to generate masses of tourist income to Britain"

Sorry, but what a crock!!

Monarchists trot out this tired old line ad nauseum.
Paris is the number one tourist detination in the world.
Gotta give it to the French - they know how to treat royalty.


"Off with their heads"

 

[wallym]

Can't remember where it was but I heard some UK politician on the campain trail somewhere pushing the 'remain' agenda when he said something along the lines of
"I don't know if anybody here can remember what things we like here before we joined the EU, but"

But before he could finish some old boy in the crowd stood up and yelled out

"I do, beer was twenty pence a pint, Morecombe and Wise were still on the telly, and we won the world cup." "It was bloody marvelous !!!"

I cracked up !!

 

[Phil47uk]

AlanH posted (RE: the british royal family)
"but there is no doubt that that help to generate masses of tourist income to Britain"

Sorry, but what a crock!!

Monarchists trot out this tired old line ad nauseum.
Paris is the number one tourist detination in the world.
Gotta give it to the French - they know how to treat royalty.


"Off with their heads"

This is very true.
People come to this country to see the rich cultural heritage of its architecture, not to see the Royals.
I lived in London for well over thirty years and often drove past Buckingham palace... Never ever seen a glimpse of one of them..
Personally I have no time for any of them but certainly wouldn't wish them harm.
They are so out of touch with reality that if they lived on a council housing estate up north they'd be under the care of the social services by now...

 

[Phil47uk]

Can't remember where it was but I heard some UK politician on the campain trail somewhere pushing the 'remain' agenda when he said something along the lines of
"I don't know if anybody here can remember what things we like here before we joined the EU, but"

But before he could finish some old boy in the crowd stood up and yelled out

"I do, beer was twenty pence a pint, Morecombe and Wise were still on the telly, and we won the world cup." "It was bloody marvelous !!!"

I cracked up !!

........

 

[Phil47uk]

What always amuses me in threads like this are the people who have absolutely bugger all to constructively contribute who come in , moan, criticise and can't even be bothered to acknowledge someone's reply.
If you want to debate and contribute whatever your views happen to be on the subject then do so freely.

 

[Nightrain]

I'm thinking more and more that we'll end up in a general election with one side saying they will seek to renegotiate again and one side saying we're leaving. Can you guys see that happening? It'd cause havoc for sure.

 

[tragewombat]

Oh , don't think for a minute anyone in here who voted out has deluded themselves into thinking that the thieving bastards and bureaucrats will disappear over night once we have left the EU.
But!...At least they will be more accountable to us as a nation and not hiding down some long dark corridor in Brussels in a room stacked with shelves filled with piles of rule books with get out clauses.

I don't see how leaving would make the EU bureaucrats more accountable? Unless you mean that the UK politicians become more accountable in stead of blaming the EU for everything they themselves agreed to in the first place?

If the latter I totally agree with you, if the first I don't get it.

 

[Bill Hicklin]

I expect those thousands of "refugees" camped at Calais will have to find some other border to squat on now......

 

[teame1]

Labour politicians are resigning at a rate of knots this morning with Corbyn still digging his heels in and refusing to resign. This man could go down in history as the man who destroyed the Labour party..
In fact as I type this yet another Labour minister resigned.
Corbyn is the same twat who campaigned for the past thirty years to actually leave the EU.

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[JTM45]

Why can't the folks just live with the result of the vote and move forward? If they have another vote it completely devalues the whole purpose of a vote? it's like best 2 out of 3 rock, paper, scissors lol.

For Gods sake, unite and go forward!