Will the UK leave the EU (THIS IS NOT POLITICAL)

[John Vasco]

Well Farage was behind it in May when he said that a closer than 52-48 win for the Remain side would be such a narrow margin that he'd fight for a second referendum to be held. So you can blame him for a start, unless he has changed his mind based on the outcome.

Sin,
Farage is leader of a Party. He's not even a Member of Parliament.

 

[Joeydego]

here's what it boils down to. The same folks who are rich will remain rich. Know why? They adapt within the things out of their control, and leverage things they can control.

Neither the EU or England are going to hand anyone anything.

And if you think you're free either way, try not paying your taxes. You'll have 3 free meals a day, thats about it.

 

[chasenblues]

"In a separate petition more than 100,000 people have called on London Mayor Sadiq Khan to declare the English capital independent from the UK and apply to join the EU.

Across all 33 boroughs in London 59.9% of people voted to stay in the EU, with the Remain vote more than 70% in some boroughs.

The page, set up by James O'Malley, states: "London is an international city, and we want to remain at the heart of Europe. Let's face it - the rest of the country disagrees... let's make the divorce official and move in with our friends on the continent."

 

[joedonner2001]

And these are the exact same people who tell us they stand for democracy..

Until of course it doesn't go their way then they want to change it...

Pathetic if you ask me...

A second referendum, as mentioned in my previous post, with actual facts available on the consequences, to empower people to make a truly informed decision, will still be democratic.

Being cavalier about this with complete disregard for the potential pitfalls is absolutely not in anyone's interest.

Democracy doesn't have to equate stupidity.

By the way, I want what is best for the UK and for my kids (whether that means stay or leave). But this referendum was not the correct way to handle it. Not in the slightest.

You're missing my point, entirely, by the looks of it. But carry on, if you must.

That's all I have to say about that, because I can see this is going to get nasty and frankly I can't be bothered.

Good luck to us all, whatever happens.

Unsubscribing in 3..2..1..ok bye.

 

[Gooner]

It will be interesting in what will happen to British ex pats living in the EU countries over the next 2 years. I have 3 brothers living and working in them.

It isn't just about the right to live/work etc, there is uncertainty about how the pensions/healthcare will work too.

That's a reasonable question and from what I understand, you can correct me if I'm wrong, Brits are covered on a reciprocal arrangement at the moment. I think once we are out, in two years, they will, as you have to, pay into whichever country's system that they are living in.

 

[Sin Nombre]

Sin,
Farage is leader of a Party. He's not even a Member of Parliament.

He was also a driving force for Brexit. He said he would fight for a second referendum if the vote was close. Isn't anyone allowed to start a petition in Britain? What does it matter that he is not an MP?

 

[Donal]

Scroll through.

Bonhams : Search

Thanks, registered and ready to Bid

 

[LP121]

If people didn't know what they were voting for, why didn't they:

A- Do a little research and find out

or

B- Abstain from voting if they couldn't be bothered to find out?


Crying about the results afterward is just stupid.


It happens here all the time but I still don't get it.

 

[KSG_Standard]

Keep having referendums until you get the answer you want I don't think we'll be having a referendum anytime soon.

In some US states we have referendums and direct democracy. The proponents of such forms of politics...mob rule...tell us how important the people's vote is and how cool democracy is. That is until the people vote for something different than the democracy lovers want...then we turn to the courts, because unelected judges are more apt to choose the correct course of action.

 

[Gooner]

Precisely.

You can reminisce about the good old days and relish how the fat cats in Brussels must be sh*tting themselves right about now for as long as you please. But the fact of the matter is that a decision of this magnitude has been made with absolutely no clue of what the real consequences might be.

It might prove to be for the best, or not. I have no idea. Neither does anyone else. Hence it's a reckless gamble the likes of which may screw over generations to come.

Make Great Britain great again? I daresay the exact opposite seems more likely.



I rest my case.

Phil is trying to make this a little bit more light hearted, we get it, you didn't think that the right result came through.
There were just as many people voting remain with no idea what they were doing.
We are a large country that can carry on without hiding behind the EU. We helped bail out Ireland after the 2008 world recession, not because they were in the EU, but because they have a connection with us.
I hope other nations bail out of the EU before it consumes them.
As for making an uninformed decision, you are assuming too much. I'm a-political in nature and detest most politicians because over the years they have all ****ed me over, in particular Tony Blair and his incompetent champagne socialists. They ****ed up our country big time, some of us, me, are on the same take home pay as we were in 2006, people went bankrupt, lost their houses, lost their jobs, so forgive me if I don't take your whinging pessimism seriously.

 

[ErictheRed]

Brexit: Do you #Regrexit? - CNNPolitics.com

One voter, Adam from Manchester, told the BBC: "My vote -- I didn't think was going to matter too much because I thought we were just going to remain.

If someone is actually that stupid, they should never be allowed to vote.

It doesn't mean he was stupid or that he regretted his vote, he said that he didn't think that his vote was going to matter because he thought that the other side would win anyway. People are trying to stir sh*t as rapidly as they can.

 

[Gooner]

He was also a driving force for Brexit. He said he would fight for a second referendum if the vote was close. Isn't anyone allowed to start a petition in Britain? What does it matter that he is not an MP?

Basically on the closing date to register to vote at about 2230hrs the website crashed, so some people didn't register. It was known that a large number of younger people ( who were thought likely to vote to stay )hadn't registered. The PM extended the deadline for 48 hours and consequently a further 2 million people registered. Farage thought this was a breach of protocol and felt that if the result went to stay, he had grounds to seek another referendum. It would never have come to fruition because really you want as high a turn out as possible.
Any member of the public can start a petition.

 

[Gooner]

In some US states we have referendums and direct democracy. The proponents of such forms of politics...mob rule...tell us how important the people's vote is and how cool democracy is. That is until the people vote for something different than the democracy lovers want...then we turn to the courts, because unelected judges are more apt to choose the correct course of action.

Well, I think we have got just this situation. Sour grapes is definitely not cricket!

 

[Sin Nombre]

Basically on the closing date to register to vote at about 2230hrs the website crashed, so some people didn't register. It was known that a large number of younger people ( who were thought likely to vote to stay )hadn't registered. The PM extended the deadline for 48 hours and consequently a further 2 million people registered. Farage thought this was a breach of protocol and felt that if the result went to stay, he had grounds to seek another referendum. It would never have come to fruition because really you want as high a turn out as possible.
Any member of the public can start a petition.

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Gooner]

It doesn't mean he was stupid or that he regretted his vote, he said that he didn't think that his vote was going to matter because he thought that the other side would win anyway. People are trying to stir sh*t as rapidly as they can.

I would use the word 'CRETIN', it takes a special kind of person, where numbers of votes matter, to vote for opposite of what you want.

There are people sh1tting their pants at the moment because of the initial volatility of the markets. We all knew the markets would be up and down like a pair of whore's drawers for a while, that's what happens, we've seen it before. The underlying thing here is we have jettisoned the corrupt EU institution so we can deal with it at arms length.

 

[NimrodPiles]

The Beatles, Stones, Kinks, The Who, Spencer Davis, Traffic, were all bands that we had because we were not in some foreign agglomeration

However since 1973 we have been subjected to the evil overlords of the EU with their mind control weapons.

and it all went downhill from there.

cue ABBA in 1974....

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FsVeMz1F5c[/ame]

After this it was all over for the UK until we grew some in 2016.

 

[John Vasco]

He was also a driving force for Brexit. He said he would fight for a second referendum if the vote was close. Isn't anyone allowed to start a petition in Britain? What does it matter that he is not an MP?

He did not take a leading role. That was done by Boris Johnson and Michael Gove for the 'Leave' campaign. Farage garnered a lot of attention because he was the leader of UKIP (United Kingdom Independence Party).

Not being an MP means that his influence in higher circles is negligible, if not non-existent.

 

[NimrodPiles]

Mr Farage or 'Mr Farrago', as he is affectionately called, is a figure of fun and contumely, with his pint of beer in one hand and his cigarette in the other.

Not really a potential Kaiser, or Emperor, of Europe there.


More of a court jester. With fewer jokes.

 

[murmel]

On Monday I will have a meeting with a politician who is part of Angelas inner circle. These meetings are always very insightful because in these rounds there is no need to be PC. Obviously this is very political, so I would not only violate the forum rules if I'd disclose any details here, but maybe I will be able to share a bit of the overall sentiment that I will experience.

 

[NimrodPiles]

On Monday I will have a meeting with a politician who is part of Angelas inner circle. These meetings are always very insightful because in these rounds there is no need to be PC. Obviously this is very political, so I would not only violate the forum rules if I'd disclose any details here, but maybe I will be able to share a bit of the overall sentiment that I will experience.

Priceless post, full to the brim of self importance. Well done.

We look forward to hearing he's/she's best wishes on our new adventure.