Will Grover 102s direct fit

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I have an 81 Standard, oddly enough its my first standard lf the era. Im not a giant fan of the tuners. Does anyone know if ant grovers would be direct drop in/bottom screw lines up? I eyeballed it with some milkbottles but they look like theyd come up short but i know on some models the screw hole is spacea a bit further.

thanks in advance for the help
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They should be as long as they are 102’s, I bought some of ebay, and they were not, guy had three lots up, all listed as 102’s, two were, but when I clicked on buy, realised too late that the one I bought were not, the screw hole was to the side not centred.
 

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Its not really the screw hole that is the key here at all.

Its the fact Grovers require a 10mm (3/8") headstock drilling. A lot of the vintage tuner designs have 8.8mm or 11/32" holes. Best to take 1 tuner off the back and see what hole size you have before realising you have to ream out once the tuners are already there.
 

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Its not really the screw hole that is the key here at all.

Its the fact Grovers require a 10mm (3/8") headstock drilling. A lot of the vintage tuner designs have 8.8mm or 11/32" holes. Best to take 1 tuner off the back and see what hole size you have before realising you have to ream out once the tuners are already there.
Yeah, I kinda assumed the OP would have been aware of that, but maybe not, good catch.
 

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They look like 10 mm on there. I have no doubt the shafts will fit i just dont want to put new screw holes in a 39 year old guitar if i can avoid it. I figure someone here must have made the swap.
 

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Easy enough to find out take one off measure distance between centre to centre and compare with the specs published for Grover 102g’s. 10.5mm according to this:

 

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Grovers typically 'kind-of' fit the lower hole on a Kluson type tuner.....but the screw typically sits fractionally off plumb as I think the hole is just enough out to be annoying.
 


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