Why LED zeppelin is so well known?

[major]

Yup. Loads of stuff on YT. Here's one:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTz_iX_L0VA[/ame]

 

[PierM]

Oh dear no that "steal" bull**** again....

 

[tallpaul]

I think the best way Jimmy Pages style was described was falling down the stairs and landing on your feet

 

[mudface]

It's true that Zeppelin lifted music/lyrics from blues artist, but those same blues artist were lifting their ideas from each other,if not outright stealing complete songs. If you were not signed to a label your music wasn't copyrighted, and this fact was abused by blues artists of the time.

Jimmy Page also lifted other forms as well, he liked making his own arrangements of someone else's music, he just didn't like paying them or giving them credit.

This does not take away Mr Page's awesome ability to create interesting music with his borrowed knowledge.

And i'm sure i am not the only one to borrow knowledge from Mr Page

 

[major]

Oh dear no that "steal" bull**** again....

Actually, they were not the only ones.

Remember, The Last Time" by the Stones? Touted, at the time (1965) as the first Jagger/Richards composition recorded by the band.

Really?

Well here's the Staple Singers' version of what, in fact, is a traditional song.

From 1958..........

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1jGF-6bFpI[/ame]

It was also recorded by one of Jagger/Richards heroes, James Brown, a number of years before the Glimmer twins "wrote" it.

Like Page and Plant, I guess Jagger and Richards "forgot"....

I'm sure that when all four of the above remember, they'll send the royalty cheques back.....

 

[THDNUT]

Who were these four lads that called themselves the beetles?

 

[major]

If you were not signed to a label your music wasn't copyrighted, and this fact was abused by blues artists of the time.

You are dead right - the difference is that those old blues guys rarely passed off whole songs as theirs and then claimed songwriting royalties.

Zepp (who, BTW, are one of my favourite bands from the early 70's) did so quite blatantly.

I guess when you are the biggest band in the world, and have a large grizzly bear for a manager, you could get away with anything.

In the case of Anne Bredon, she successfully proved in court that her song was 100% hers, and yet Page/Plant are still on the credits as co-writers.

I am sure we have some guys on here who have written tunes. Would you be happy for that to happen to you?

 

[mudface]

You are dead right - the difference is that those old blues guys rarely passed off whole songs as theirs and then claimed songwriting royalties.

Back in the day of the early blues pioneers, these guy's would shoot each other in dark alleys over this music, and the law didn't care about black on black violence even less in the '30s.

There's no tell'n how much of this music was traded in this manor. It would only be naive to believe it wasn't happening.

These guy's literately lived and died by this music. It was seriously competitive art/business at the time.

 

[redcoats1976]

just like any other band,zep probably took things they liked and put their stamp on them.at the time no other band sounded like they did,although there are some songs they did that i just dont like.others get turned up when they come on the radio.

 

[Pwrmac7600]

This does not take away Mr Page's awesome ability to create interesting music with his borrowed knowledge.

100% agree with you, I just don't like the fact that because they are The Mighty Led Zepplin they seem to be forgiven for it. Especially when looking back in hindsight and realizing that they were coming out during a time when there was still so much musically to be discovered. As opposed to today where just about everything that can be done, has been done, so it's a little easier to understand it happening in the current times, even if only accidentally, or subconsciously.

Whereas if an artist today did the same thing they would be looked down upon, and their careers would probably collapse.

 

[Mockbel]

Well I don't think they are...

I still believe that the 3 most well known bands in history are The Beatles, Pink Floyd, and Metallica !

 

[Chris B.]

Well I don't think they are...

I still believe that the 3 most well known bands in history are The Beatles, Pink Floyd, and Metallica !

Most well known: Beatles, Rolling Stones, Led Zep.

 

[TheWilly17]

Well I don't think they are...

I still believe that the 3 most well known bands in history are The Beatles, Pink Floyd, and Metallica !

Wow, Metallica huh, hmm

 

[Mockbel]

Wow, Metallica huh, hmm

Yes... for those mortals out there not for us (musicians) man !! don't misunderstand me

...and by the way.. I love Metallica too

 

[mudface]

Metallica is of a different era, though extremely popular, and as a band been together making music 3 times longer than Zeppelin.

Most popular with the smallest catalog of original releases (not to include box sets and re-releases) would have to be the Beatles and Led Zeppelin.

Every one else has become Geritol bands.

 

[EasyAce]

You are dead right - the difference is that those old blues guys rarely passed off whole songs as theirs and then claimed songwriting royalties.

At least, not until some time in the 1950s. Willie Dixon (one Zeppelin target) had known publishing credits on the songs he did for those Chess and Cobra bluesmen. It's not like you couldn't have seen them on the records and credited them accordingly. (And anyone who still thinks Zeppelin didn't know better or just made a mistake has to explain how come they did credit Willie Dixon for two songs on their first album but failed to do so with two songs on their second album in the original pressings . . .)

Case in contrast: Eric Clapton and Jack Bruce smoking out Skip James on one of the early Cream tours of the U.S. and handing him a royalty check for "I'm So Glad"---whom they did credit as the song's author, even though their version was radically different from his.

 

[Guitpicky]

I can't believe this thread is still going

 

[LeftyF2003]

Cudos to you all for not just tearing the OP's arms and legs off for asking this up here!

 

[ACEit]

Let's say that maybe zep stole, or use, some original concept from other authors...
But is like comparing some unfocused b/w movie with improbable plot against an Oscar winning cinemascope drama..
It is correct they had to give credits but talking about results was genius Vs mediocrity

 

[Donal]

I can't believe this thread is still going

It should be moved to the backstage, it`s friday