Why is San Francisco ... covered in human feces?

[Bill Hicklin]

It's beyond ridiculous, and borders on criminal in the sense that corporations have driven housing pricing beyond what the average worker can afford anywhere near the Bay Area.

Corporations??? Oh, no. Oh hell no. The city's own moronic housing regulations created this situation, on top of a huge influx of new money from Silicon Valley's success.

But the bulk of SFs homeless are not locals who got evicted and can't afford the sky high rent. They come from all over the country, attracted like flies to shit by the knowledge that they'll get free handouts and no hassles.

The Okies came looking for WORK, not to be spongers.

 

[Caleb]

There is talk around these parts about building a small house village for the homeless. Sounds like a great idea!

Already been done in Seattle, I think. Only for women though. You know, because of equality. Not even kidding.

 

[Bill Hicklin]

I miss the old days, when after a night in the cells the sheriff would drive a bum to the county line and inform him if he ever came back he'd get a dance with Mr. Nightstick.

 

[lunchbox]

There is talk around these parts about building a small house village for the homeless. Sounds like a great idea!

Here in Santa Rosa too. It’s a great idea! The most successful, appreciative and happy people are those that were handed everything and never had to work for it. I think this is like statistically proven, or something.

 

[pnuggett]

Corporations??? Oh, no. Oh hell no. The city's own moronic housing regulations created this situation, on top of a huge influx of new money from Silicon Valley's success.

But the bulk of SFs homeless are not locals who got evicted and can't afford the sky high rent. They come from all over the country, attracted like flies to shit by the knowledge that they'll get free handouts and no hassles.

The Okies came looking for WORK, not to be spongers.

So they're actually attracted to the shit? Interesting.

 

[dspelman]

The poverty line for a family of 4 in SF is ... wait for it ... $117,000 per year.

But here's the thing. I can't afford to live in SF, or Manhattan, or Beverly Hills, so I don't. So what gives these bums the idea they're entitled to live there (at someone else's expense)?

Some homeless actually have jobs in those cities. They aren't destitute, they aren't drug users, but they can't afford homes anywhere near where they work. Here in LA, I know people who live in their vans and cars parked in Walmart parking lots. Who cleans your house if you live in Belair. You? Naw.

 

[dspelman]

My current house cost me one years salary.

HGTV is constantly on at our house (it's not ME watching it...), and it's just whacko what houses Chip and Joanna find at Waco prices. And the renovation prices are what we pay here to repair a runny faucet. If we sold our house here and moved to Waco, we could have double the square footage, some land acreage, a complete renovation (shiplap and all) and half the money left over. But...Waco.

 

[James Carney]

Prominently profiled is a woman living in a camper with her three grown sons. No details on what the men folk are doing to earn, although the nice lady says she likes to take her "kids" to the movies or out to eat now and then and wishes she made more money to do it.

The story is absurd. There's plenty of areas I can't afford to live in. It'd be pretty stupid of me to move there, live with three adult dependents in what is probably a 60K camper for three years, and then have the gall to call myself homeless. I don't live on the Upper West Side, the Gold Coast of Chicago, Aspen, Miami Beach, San Francisco, or Beverly Hills. Because I can't freaking afford to. If I were to show up at one of these places and not be able to afford rent, would that make me one of the "working homeless?" Or just an idiot?

I don't disagree. I simply indicated it was happening.

I pay $2100/mo for a 1br outside Boston on the subway line, but I have a job that allows me to pay that. If I left the city, I would unlikely be able to get a job that pays as much. If I was making half what I make, I certainly would never even entertain living in this area. In fact, I don't understand how it is even possible without having roommates. And then you might as well be dead or homeless anyway.

 

[pnuggett]

My current house cost me one years salary.

Same here.

 

[Kamen_Kaiju]

It has potential!

It's a fixer upper, no doubt,...but the view is great!

 

[Caleb]

I pay $2100/mo for a 1br outside Boston on the subway line, but I have a job that allows me to pay that. If I left the city, I would unlikely be able to get a job that pays as much. If I was making half what I make, I certainly would never even entertain living in this area.

That's pretty much my exact situation as well. I always hear how cheap it is to live in other places, but the thing is my job doesn't pay much in most of those places even if I could land it, which I probably couldn’t. Sure, I could buy a dirt cheap house in the middle of nowhere, but on the other hand I'd probably be making whatever they pay at the Family Dollar.

Another thing about cost of living that people forget is that it pretty much applies to housing only. Everything else is pretty equitable. A new Ford costs the same in Brentwood CA as it does in Smith Center KS. Verizon doesn't give different phone rates by local income. A laptop from Bestbuy.com is the same whether you order it from Greenwich Village or Flint. Groceries have a little variation but not much. A couple from Boise paid just as much for their cruise tickets as the couple next to them from San Francisco. But all we ever think about in terms of cost of living is real estate. It's kind of an incomplete way to look at it.

 

[Crotch]

If housing in my town got so expensive that i couldn’t afford it, I’d move to where i could afford it.

 

[Crotch]

Here in Santa Rosa too.

 

[James Carney]

Sure, I could buy a dirt cheap house in the middle of nowhere, but on the other hand I'd probably be making whatever they pay at the Family Dollar.

 

[Dun Ringill]

That's pretty much my exact situation as well. I always hear how cheap it is to live in other places, but the thing is my job doesn't pay much in most of those places even if I could land it, which I probably couldn’t. Sure, I could buy a dirt cheap house in the middle of nowhere, but on the other hand I'd probably be making whatever they pay at the Family Dollar.

Another thing about cost of living that people forget is that it pretty much applies to housing only. Everything else is pretty equitable. A new Ford costs the same in Brentwood CA as it does in Smith Center KS. Verizon doesn't give different phone rates by local income. A laptop from Bestbuy.com is the same whether you order it from Greenwich Village or Flint. Groceries have a little variation but not much. A couple from Boise paid just as much for their cruise tickets as the couple next to them from San Francisco. But all we ever think about in terms of cost of living is real estate. It's kind of an incomplete way to look at it.

You should appreciate this. It is a little off topic, but shows the mentality of the state of California. AB-931 will make it easier to prosecute police officers that kill somebody. Kinda takes that anti-cop thing to the next level!

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB931

 

[Crotch]

 

[defcrew]

Same here.

I think I lived in that house back when I was a "professional musician."

 

[Caleb]

You should appreciate this. It is a little off topic, but shows the mentality of the state of California. AB-931 will make it easier to prosecute police officers that kill somebody. Kinda takes that anti-cop thing to the next level!

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB931

Oh we got an earful of it at in service training a couple of weeks ago. A cop job is like anything else, with the best applicants opting for the best pay and working conditions. Going to be interesting to see what kind of talent a place can draw when one of their proudest achievements is how much more streamlined they've made the process of sending the employees to prison. What do you think, want to be a cop in California?

 

[NotScott]

I see what you did there.

 

[Dun Ringill]

Oh we got an earful of it at in service training a couple of weeks ago. A cop job is like anything else, with the best applicants opting for the best pay and working conditions.

The state is just full of victims! One thing I've noticed in my personal experience, cops generally don't shoot you if you are compliant.