Which Marshall in a box type of pedal are you guys loving with your LP's?

[davey77]

I use a Bogner La Grange... man I love this thing!!! I use a Wampler tumnus and ep booster to give it some secret sauce and when I want some higher gain I push all with a DOD 250 and tube screamer

 

[Stuff]

Spent the holiday weekend playing with the Carpe Diem. I've been using it as a boost for the last few months. Decided it was time to give it a go as a MIAB drive pedal.

Aaaand I've taken it off the board.

Like practically all the MIAB pedals I've tried, it sounds like someone threw a blanket over the speakers. I think I've reached the point where I need to admit that these pedals are going after a tone that just doesn't work with the rest of my rig. Maybe it's time to try FIAB pedals instead?

 

[Rich]

MIAB pedals are pretty specific, Stuff. With those, you pretty much want to start out with a great clean sound that you like (probably a Fender amp), then kick in the MIAB and tweak away from there until you find either nirvana or a happy middle ground between the clean and MIAB sounds. Or just say "F' it" and go for simply one badass Marshall-esqe sound.

 

[alnico59]

Spent the holiday weekend playing with the Carpe Diem. I've been using it as a boost for the last few months. Decided it was time to give it a go as a MIAB drive pedal.

Aaaand I've taken it off the board.

Like practically all the MIAB pedals I've tried, it sounds like someone threw a blanket over the speakers. I think I've reached the point where I need to admit that these pedals are going after a tone that just doesn't work with the rest of my rig. Maybe it's time to try FIAB pedals instead?

Honestly I couldn't get past the demo. Once I hear those unconvincing mids and no sparkle I know it won't work for me.

I'm finding some of the lower to medium gain MIAB pedals work much better with a very loud pushed amp or edge of breakup. To my ears sounds more amp like that way. My LP plexi 800 is beastly enough to get it done without any help. My friend has a plexi drive deluxe which I thought sounded good through his drri and prri. But I still prefer my plexi 800 through a clean platform. It just sounds huge.

I started this thread seriously considering another MIAB pedal. But now I'm losing GAS for one. The PAL 800 JCM Emulator and LP plexi 800 have scratched that itch.

 

[Guitar Rod]

I find with my Plexi pedal, and all distortion pedals for that matter, sounds best when the amp is just starting to break up. Adds a sparkle as you put it, and a fullness. I don't like any pedals on a perfectly clean amp.

 

[Stuff]

I started this thread seriously considering another MIAB pedal. But now I'm losing GAS for one. The PAL 800 JCM Emulator and LP plexi 800 have scratched that itch.

I just keep going back to the BE-OD. It's the only MIAB(ish) pedal I've tried that doesn't sound like a blanket has been thrown over the speakers through my rig.

 

[Rich]

Honestly I couldn't get past the demo. Once I hear those unconvincing mids and no sparkle I know it won't work for me.

I'm finding some of the lower to medium gain MIAB pedals work much better with a very loud pushed amp or edge of breakup. To my ears sounds more amp like that way. My LP plexi 800 is beastly enough to get it done without any help. My friend has a plexi drive deluxe which I thought sounded good through his drri and prri. But I still prefer my plexi 800 through a clean platform. It just sounds huge.

I started this thread seriously considering another MIAB pedal. But now I'm losing GAS for one. The PAL 800 JCM Emulator and LP plexi 800 have scratched that itch.

For you then, you're better off with an OD pedal that you like - if you even want to use one of those - since you like your amp without any of that stuff. With my live amp (Soldano Hot Rod 50), I already have tons of gain available from the amp though I do use a treble booster for different sounds as well as sometimes an OD (usually to beef up a Strat). I use the MIAB pedals at home with a couple of Fender amps just to get a big, fat sound though not as much these days since I got this Marshall SL-5 that sounds great just plugged right into it.

Now that I wrote that, I've been mulling around the idea of picking up a Fender Bassman head and throwing a couple MIAB amps onto my pedal board as it sure would make life simpler when it comes to adding effects pedals that I prefer after distortion.

Obligatory gear porn of the live rig (I don't use the bottom cab anymore and have removed the beam blockers in the top cab since changing the speakers and a couple of pedals have changed).

 

[alnico59]

For you then, you're better off with an OD pedal that you like - if you even want to use one of those - since you like your amp without any of that stuff. With my live amp (Soldano Hot Rod 50), I already have tons of gain available from the amp though I do use a treble booster for different sounds as well as sometimes an OD (usually to beef up a Strat). I use the MIAB pedals at home with a couple of Fender amps just to get a big, fat sound though not as much these days since I got this Marshall SL-5 that sounds great just plugged right into it.

Now that I wrote that, I've been mulling around the idea of picking up a Fender Bassman head and throwing a couple MIAB amps onto my pedal board as it sure would make life simpler when it comes to adding effects pedals that I prefer after distortion.

Obligatory gear porn of the live rig (I don't use the bottom cab anymore and have removed the beam blockers in the top cab since changing the speakers and a couple of pedals have changed).

I always wanted a Hot Rod 50. Had a shot at a 50+ but it was in purple and I hesitated.

As far as liking the tone of my amps vs. pedals. I think pedals are a necessary evil today. Exactly what you mentioned about using them at home to get big, fat tones is a perfect example. I will also add I'm way less picky when using pedals with my Strat (all singles). With my LP's it's like pulling on a thread.

 

[RocknRollShakeUp]

JHS Angry Charlie. I love it with any amp I've ever put it in front of.

That pedal show had a comparisson video and they had a version of the angry charlie that sounded very close to a guvnor. Maybe with a bit more midrange to it.

 

[RocknRollShakeUp]

I just ordered an Alexander Silver Jubilee. We'll see how I like it.

Re: pedal vs amp gain, ive thought about running a Friedman or some such on one side and a clean amp for my cleans on the other side, but since I mainly use various shades of cleans, fuzzes and light to medium overdrives, for most things, its just so much more practical to just use clean amps with pedal high gain as well. But sometimes I dream about getting a holy grail small box, or 20watt type high gain head that can do plexi to jcm/jubilee tones!

 

[Dirtyclinic]

I only have 1 and it's the JHS AT. It is pretty sweet though.

 

[gibsonguitar1988]

I only have 1 and it's the JHS AT. It is pretty sweet though.

Probably my favorite high gain MIAB.

 

[afranke]

gotta say after playing alot of od pedals the friedman be-od
is my favorite.one of the few of pedals that sounds good any any
gain level. not just one sweet spot.

 

[bluefrog]

I use a Xotic SL drive (into a fender blues deluxe & junior)
and sometimes the Xotic BB. I had the Zevex BOR before and many others.
the BOR is a tad whooly but also versatile f.e. the booster to kick in.
4 weeks ago I was checking the BE-OD. I found that BE-OD has
tons of gain and power. But I liked the SL more as it was more organic -
and I was missing the "right mids" and the mids were not to dial in from the BE-OD. So I prefered the SL and kept it, the BE-OD was returned.

 

[pillbug]

I have a tinnitus problem. If I play guitar at anything over 5 watts for more than an hour, it hurts my ears and they ring all day.

Can I afford to have a JCM800 half stack and do I love their sound? Hell yes to both.

But what I have instead is a Bassbreaker 007, and a Night Train 15, and a 30w SS Master Lead Combo, and I play them with a variety of OD/AIAB pedals for gain.

Because that's what suits ME.

I just sold a Crate v30 half stack because it was overkill and sounded like a$$ in my basement (where I play). But when they fire it up in GC as I was trading it in, it sure sounded great. Wish I could have kept it but no sense playing it on 2. Ya know? So I agree with "tools for the job" in that sense.

Btw lest anyone forget, Jimi used if not pioneered pedals, and I doubt there'd be the market we have today (or this sub-forum) without that little fact. Just sayin'...

 

[pillbug]

But I liked the SL more as it was more organic -
and I was missing the "right mids" and the mids were not to dial in from the BE-OD. So I prefered the SL and kept it, the BE-OD was returned.

Which setting is your SL in?

 

[Darkburst]

I love the Bogner La Grange. It can go from JTM 45 to hot rodded JCM tones. Some cool switches to tweak the feel and help it mate well to the voicing of your pedal platform.

 

[PeteGalaxie]

I'm just a home player these days. Les Pauls include a '54 reissue and a '58 reissue. My "Marshall" style amps: Fargen Micro Plex, Fargen Mini Plex MKIII, and a Germino Classic 45. All amps have a master volume and on the Germino I also use an attenuator. I get most of my "tone" right from the amp and they are set to have slight breakup. To get me the heavier overdrive sounds, I use:
Timmy - to retain the guitar and amp tone with no (or little) additional coloration
Rockett .45 Caliber - for the JTM tone (my favorite!)
DLS MK3 (Super Bass mode) - for more of a Super Bass sound
DLS MK1 V2 - gives me the best straight ahead JMP tone

I have a Weehbo JTM Drive on the way. I've wanted to try this pedal for a while now, but I can't see how it is going to be better than the .45 Caliber. Maybe more gain on tap? We'll see...

 

[Trubble888]

Menatone KING OF THE BRITAINS - great pedal. ALso I co-sign on the SL Drive love and Wampler Plexi Drive Deluxe

 

[RICHARD PRIETO]

I've had good luck with the skreddy screwdriver.
Good stuff from skreddy.