What makes the SG have 'the thing' that the Les Paul doesnt have..

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Hmm, mine is the opposite,last December i got an email ,sales add from a Guitar shop.I never shopped at before,so i went to check the vintage and used section, and my dream SG,was there in Excellent condition, for $2800, deal’ed my way to $500 off and i had to grab it.A 2016 Gibson SG Standard Historic, cherry red with the Maestro vibrola.

The guitar,plays realy easy and well like all my Custom Shop Gibsons,however my SG is darker sounding, with my Klon, or my MI Audio Super Crunch box, it just ,well...Crunches mean hard rock sounding.However i cant seem to get it to be abke to clear its throat on the neck pickup position, and give me that “Bell” like tone, its very Tone rolled back sounding.However i absolutely love the guitar and since i dont ever change pickups in my Especially Custom Shop guitars, thats the way she is,...but yeah i would have liked her to clear out a bit on the neck position...heres some Eye Candy ...Note the Montreux Time machine collection poker chip,and Nickle plated Brass “Domed” ABR-1 Thumbwheels, for Vintage correctness
 

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My next guitar will be a Gibson SG Standard '61 with Maestro Vibrola
 

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My next guitar will be a Gibson SG Standard '61 with Maestro Vibrola

Yes, thats what mine is.What Gibson calls a 60’s Standard Historic with the Maestro Vibrola.Technically though, 1961 would have come with the sideways Vibrola, my SG, and the one you want is roughly a 1963 spec
 

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Totally agree.
At least with the LP Specials and Juniors, they are flat slab bodies with a radius edge around the body. I also prefer the Double Cut for better upper fret access like the SG.

An LP with a carved top and sharp edges around the body is very uncomfortable for me to play after any extended period of time. I had a few in the past, but let them go in favor of the SG and LP Junior DC.
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Yes, thats what mine is.What Gibson calls a 60’s Standard Historic with the Maestro Vibrola.Technically though, 1961 would have come with the sideways Vibrola, my SG, and the one you want is roughly a 1963 spec

The Gibson Custom 1964 SG Standard Reissue With Maestro Vibrola VOS is what I want, what I want to spend is the Gibson SG Standard '61 with Maestro Vibrola
 

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The Gibson Custom 1964 SG Standard Reissue With Maestro Vibrola VOS is what I want, what I want to spend is the Gibson SG Standard '61 with Maestro Vibrola
Thats basically what mine is VOS vintage reissue maestro
 

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I have been playing Les Pauls since the start. I rarely visit shops and when I do, I try Les Pauls.

Recently a friend gave me a visit and instead of the usual LPs, he brought a '61 SG VOS Maestro with him. That thing sounded awesome. Eventually we made a deal and Im now the new owner.

It has that... Bite.. It is less warm, but it has soo much more bite than my 2003 Brazilian '59. I guess bite is the proper word to describe how it sounds.

I am not sold on the body shape, looks of the SG, its fragile heel area and the neck diving, so it will be put up for sale.

However, I am wondering what makes the guitar have this.. 'Thing'? Is it the thin mahogany body or is it all the metal parts of the maestro vibrato... Not sure.
I think "bite" is the word on SG's.......even though I always called it "growl"....FWIW
 

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No matter what model or year, hum bucker-equipped SGs all have that upper midrange sweetness. Whenever I use a Les Paul onstage, the bass player complains. He misses those clear highs. But cranked, an SG will still thunder almost like an LP, if it's properly EQed. Like the OP said, SGs have their quirks, neck dive being the worst, but that tone is undeniable.
 

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And thanks to the Kitty for that live performance of "Black Velvet". Just excellent!
 

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Probably the pickups, as is the case for most tonal differences between electric guitars.
 

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Curious if you could name them? There’s so many humbucker or traditional single coil players. I haven’t heard of as many P-90 players, and am interested to know more.

Cheers!
Early Santana woodstock etc. Pete Townsend live at Leeds woodstock etc., Leslie West in Mountain, just about everyone punk
 

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Could also add (off the top of my head) George Harrison, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Martin Barre, Tony Iommi, Keith Richards, Bob Marley, Robby Krieger, Neil Young, Dean Deleo, Mick Jones, etc, etc...
 
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I wanted to ask simce we are talking about the SG, i found that my SG, kind of sounds hollow and airy, as if the body is soo light that it resonates like crazy, but also seeming to kill the sustain a bit.The guitar has good sustain if i fret a any of the strings up near the middle of the neck, but if i go close to last fret close to the body and hit and bend a note, its like it does not want to sustain, or the note cant ring out lively? Is this a Maestro vibrato thing?
 

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This Custom Shop of Dickie's would be my ideal SG provided it had no neck dive......love the switch on the upper bout.

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Well, here is the response from the original owner of a 61 SG standard. If you play at high volumes, thet is where the SG shows its stuff! Great tone, infinite sustain without pedals. But if you play at lower volume in smaller venues, this is not the guitar for you. A heavier SB like a LP does better at lower volumes, as does a semi hollow guitar. So it all depends on where and what you play
 

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