What I've learned on the Gibson VS Epiphone debate

[Kamen_Kaiju]

sh*t

they're both lesbians


damn

 

[Craig Sock]

Liver is NOT FOOD!

...and what's more, when I put a plate of this in front of anyone I know, they scarf like mad.
Cripes, I got my mother to eat this before I told her what it was. (That she hated my breathing guts for a while is beside the point.)



Spaghetti alla Caruso was named after the famed Italian tenor Enrico Caruso who reigned over the Metropolitan Opera house for eighteen years. Caruso, who frequently cooked, loved chicken livers and incorporated them into this dish with San Marzano tomatoes, mushrooms, onions and garlic.

The pale yellow version of chicken livers should be purchased as opposed to the dark red type. They are fatter, sweeter and less bitter than the dark red ones. Also the in order to get the best results from this dish, it’s best to sauté the chicken livers separately and then add them to the sauce. Oh My!

Chicken liver is widely used in Italy. One traditional Tuscan recipe is for Chicken Liver Crostini or sometimes they are just simply sautéed with garlic and onions. This Spaghetti alla Caruso recipe is different and very rich with flavor.

INGREDIENTS

1 pound of chicken livers separated into individual lobes and all visible fat removed
1 cup of flour for dredging
2 Tbls of extra virgin olive oil
2 Tbls of butter
2 cloves of garlic, chopped
1 yellow onion, chopped
4 oz. of Crimini mushrooms, sliced
4 oz. of white button mushrooms, sliced
4 oz. of ****ake mushrooms, sliced
1 cup of dry red wine
1 28 oz can of San Marzano tomatoes, peeled
1/4 cup of parsley, chopped
1/2 tsp of fresh ground black pepper
1/2 tsp of salt
1 pound of spaghetti

PREPARATION

Season the flour with a little salt and pepper.
Dredge the chicken livers in the flour.
In a large skillet, saute the chicken livers in the olive oil until brown and firm.
Remove the livers from the pan and set aside.
Add the butter to the pan and saute the garlic, onions and mushrooms for 5 minutes.
Add the wine and reduce to about half.
Puree the tomatoes and add then to the pan.
Slice the chicken livers in half and add them to the pan.
Season with salt and pepper and cook on low heat for around thirty minutes.
In 6 quarts of boiling salted water cook the spaghetti until al dente.
Drain and plate the pasta.
Cover with the sauce and garnish with parsley.

Yum!

 

[Kamen_Kaiju]

I'd take a raw bite out of a squirting heart before I'd eat a liver, no matter how it's cooked.

call me crazy but I don't want to eat things that are part of the urinary system.

 

[chasenblues]

What Epi does best is the Epi-specific hollows & semi-hollows; Sheraton, Casino, Broadway, Emperor, etc. (I leave Riviera because it's been so long since made an actual Riv - which has mini-buckers & Frequenstor).

While I love these, I am not interested in Epi versions of Gibson models - but I realize this is a character flaw on my part.

From what i've read of the 5 models you mention only 2( Broadway/Emperor) were produced by Epiphone before Gibson bought them in 1957.The Sheraton,Casino,Riv were Gibson designs made by Gibson before production move to Asia in the 70's.(except for a few special/limited edition ones that were made by Gibson in that U.S.)

 

[TheX]

only 2( Broadway/Emperor) were produced by Epiphone before Gibson bought them in 1957.

I really regret selling my Emperor years ago.

 

[Craig Sock]

I'd take a raw bite out of a squirting heart before I'd eat a liver, no matter how it's cooked.

call me crazy but I don't want to eat things that are part of the urinary system.

I can admire that.
I was just trying to make you puke.

 

[jdto]

From what i've read of the 5 models you mention only 2( Broadway/Emperor) were produced by Epiphone before Gibson bought them in 1957.The Sheraton,Casino,Riv were Gibson designs made by Gibson before production move to Asia in the 70's.(except for a few special/limited edition ones that were made by Gibson in that U.S.)

I though the Casino was introduced in '61. So were the Casinos Gibson designs made by Gibson with an Epiphone logo before the move to Asia?

 

[Kamen_Kaiju]

I can admire that.
I was just trying to make you puke.

it was pretty gross,..especially the 'pale yellow' part,..because then I thought of piss and ....SMH

 

[Cozmik Cowboy]

how else am I going to get mixed babies and put an end to all this madness?

someone needs to be forward thinking and make the hard choices

B'hai giutar love!

 

[Cozmik Cowboy]

I though the Casino was introduced in '61. So were the Casinos Gibson designs made by Gibson with an Epiphone logo before the move to Asia?

Emperor & Broadway are, indeed, pre-Gibson names - though the pre-Gibson, Kalamzoo, & current models thus designated are different beasts.
The Sheraton was developed in the same room as the 335 (as an upscale alternative; that's why it's so much prettier), by the same people, at the same time, and was built on the same assembly lines from '58-'70. They were introduced about a week apart (I can never recall which came out first).
The Casino, while coming later, was likewise quickly fancified from, basically, a 330 to a fancier version (Epi, who had been Gibson's biggest competitor - and lost the game on business decisions, not instrument quality - didn't become a budget line until 1970).
The Riv came, IIRC, a few years after that.
None survived the move to Asia - they were reintroduced later.
My original point being, an Epi LP/SG/V/etc., is a lower-line version of a Gibbie model; there was never a Gibson Sheraton, Emperor, etc.

 

[jdto]

Emperor & Broadway are, indeed, pre-Gibson names - though the pre-Gibson, Kalamzoo, & current models thus designated are different beasts.
The Sheraton was developed in the same room as the 335 (as an upscale alternative; that's why it's so much prettier), by the same people, at the same time, and was built on the same assembly lines from '58-'70. They were introduced about a week apart (I can never recall which came out first).
The Casino, while coming later, was likewise quickly fancified from, basically, a 330 to a fancier version (Epi, who had been Gibson's biggest competitor - and lost the game on business decisions, not instrument quality - didn't become a budget line until 1970).
The Riv came, IIRC, a few years after that.
None survived the move to Asia - they were reintroduced later.
My original point being, an Epi LP/SG/V/etc., is a lower-line version of a Gibbie model; there was never a Gibson Sheraton, Emperor, etc.

Thanks for that. I have been feeling some GAS twinges for a Casino lately. I've also been interested in trying the Coupe version.

 

[parts]

it was pretty gross,..especially the 'pale yellow' part,..because then I thought of piss and ....SMH

Oh..Mal..!

My family came from near Rome..Liver and gizzards and hearts..are still on my diet...
I introduced these to horrified band members many years ago..
It became a regular meal..saute in butter garlic and onions..with crusty dago bread..

They became converts..

Gots (er guts) to have them,
I even go to a place here Lucky Wishbone..Steak Fingers..Fried chicken..shrimp Gizzards..

So I guess pate..or liverwurst never was on your plate ?

 

[MikeyTheCat]

I'd take a raw bite out of a squirting heart before I'd eat a liver, no matter how it's cooked.

call me crazy but I don't want to eat things that are part of the urinary system.

Uh Mal, we really need to have that other talk too.

 

[cybermgk]

how else am I going to get mixed babies and put an end to all this madness?

someone needs to be forward thinking and make the hard choices

But what would we name them?

I'm afraid that they would be like Epison(s) which is too much like

I guess Gibaphone perhaps.

 

[Mindfrigg]

Sorry. That's already a thing.

 

[Gloveberg]

Here's my opinion (like anyone needs another opinion):

With guitars there's a point of diminishing returns. An Epiphone is generally going to be surprising quality compared to some other overseas thing around the same price. And a $2,500 Gibson is going to be surprising quality (in theory anyway) to a $600 Epiphone. Then you jump up to the $4K and $5K R8's and R9's and mostly what you're doing is playing Russian Roulette. Meaning, just because the tag says $5,199 in NO way are you guaranteed an upscale guitar to the $2,500 one. There are definitely features that set them apart, but I debate when it comes to quality. For example, the fret work on my LP Traditional is superior to that of my R9. They're both good, but the price didn't guarantee upscale quality in this case.

There are magical guitars to be had for under $1K. And there are some serious duds to be had for $5K. The notion that you always "get what you pay for" doesn't necessarily apply to guitars - the reason why is that with guitars, (as opposed to electronic gear), there are so many stars that have to align to equal an amazing instrument that the odds are quite low that you're the one who's going to hit that lottery. You'll either need to lower your standards and gloat over that fine looking "monster flame top", or settle for an ugly guitar that's better on many more important accounts. If I blindfolded you to listen to my $800 LP 50's Tribute compared to my LP Traditional, compared to my R9, I seriously doubt you'd peg which is which. In fact, I'd bet money on it.

Or something like that. I may have polarized that bit to make a point. But I've had 'em from $189 to $2k, $3K, $4K and $5K, and I have to say, the best guitars I find are usually the mid-priced models. That means about $2K to 2.5K for Gibson and about $1.5 to $2K for Fender. Anything more expensive than that seems impractical (to me).

So you watched that Anderton's video too?

 

[Davio]

Sorry. That's already a thing.

Ringtone or it never happened.

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