What Is This Goldtop?

Moby Dick

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Forgive me if this is not in the correct forum,
Local metro detroit craigslist ad for an old goldtop.

What do you guys think?
It old and looks like moisture has gotten to it.
No binding...
kinda looks like the binding came off.
Nylon saddles...’68?




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I wouldnt touch this thing with a ten foot pole...
 

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"mite" trade for R9. That right there scares me.



Fingerboard looks like it was used to hammer nails. Nice top carve.

Not too far from where I used to live.
 

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Early '52s had no fretboard binding. If it is a '52 it's priced ok. No telling if the neck angle works with that set up tho.

In the shot of the bridge it looks as if that bridge is set far too high for a '52 neck angle.

But in the tenon shot it looks as if all the mating surfaces around the tenon are clean.

Was the neck reset already?

Hard saying but I'd have to bring that guitar to someone well versed in '52s before I dropped coin on it.
 

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those pickups are old , fretboard looks like 50's , need way more piics , i dwant to check it out in person , craigs list is not where i d go to buy vintage guitars
 

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Guitar has been deleted from CG....:hmm:
 

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Inlay is not 50s type though.
I don’t believe it was a 50s or a no-binding 52.
The photos are horrible but if you look closely it appears as if the fingerboard binding came off. It looks like moisture damage on the fretboard.
The inlays look like late 60s and the white nylon saddles are definitely 60s.
The top carve looks vintage style.
Long neck tenon.

My best uninformed guess,
1968
 

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That's what I was thinking too. Binding looked more the thick style in the cutaway.
68s with the p90 rout are pretty valuable guitars in their own right. But that's a rough player grade at best.
 

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Also the early 52 had the bridge P90 screwed on the sides, like a Staple.
 

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A its on Craigslist B he spelled might as mite yeah weird....
 

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These photos are hard to view but the bridge pup route looks like it is center wire channel. All early 1952 bridge pup routes had this center wire channel if they had the diaginal screw mounted P90 and the straight cut routed rear contral cavity. Not all early 1952 unbounds had that diaginal bridge pup and some of the last made unbounds had the clover shaped rear control cavity. All unbound 52's had white neck side markers and the 1951 style Gibson logo with dot on the "I" touching the "G" and hex shaped tuner bushings with closed tuner shafts.
 

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These photos are hard to view but the bridge pup route looks like it is center wire channel. All early 1952 bridge pup routes had this center wire channel if they had the diaginal screw mounted P90 and the straight cut routed rear contral cavity. Not all early 1952 unbounds had that diaginal bridge pup and some of the last made unbounds had the clover shaped rear control cavity. All unbound 52's had white neck side markers and the 1951 style Gibson logo with dot on the "I" touching the "G" and hex shaped tuner bushings with closed tuner shafts.
This stuff fascinates me love early LPs and and thats why I joined MLP to get stuff like this from knowledgable folks like this fella. :thumb: :cheers:
 

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Forgive me if this is not in the correct forum,
Local metro detroit craigslist ad for an old goldtop.

What do you guys think?
It old and looks like moisture has gotten to it.
No binding...
kinda looks like the binding came off.
Nylon saddles...’68?




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The '52 had the trapeze tailpiece. This one's replaced with the Bigsby. I'm no expert, but here's what I learned...

Does this Bigsby mount to the end through just the guitar strap holder hole, or three holes that would be a perfect match for the '52 trapeze holes? The trapeze had three holes; two small screws left & right, and the guitar strap holder hole lower than these and in the center.

Look to see if the trapeze screw holes are at the end of the large bout, on the side of the body. Note if they may have been filled in.

Doug Pratt
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Forgive me if this is not in the correct forum,
Local metro detroit craigslist ad for an old goldtop.

What do you guys think?
It old and looks like moisture has gotten to it.
No binding...
kinda looks like the binding came off.
Nylon saddles...’68?

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Gibson NEVER EVER EVER EVER did fretboard inlays that crappy.

Did I see that right on the peghead "Chibson"??? A VERY bad FAKE.
 

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Deep-set P-90s, shallow neck angle, long tenon, and no FB binding? Early '52.

Friend of mine had a late '52-early '53 with an ABR/330-tailpiece conversion (IIRC the ABR was off a Dove, as they were slimmer & worked with the neck angle); it had nylon saddles. But whatever, the bridge is not original, so the saddle material is of no use for dating anything but the bridge. His P-90s were screwed just like this one, and yes, his inlays had fill like this one.
Based just on the pix, I'd say this is,indeed, a '52.
 




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