- Sep 20, 2010
- Reaction score
Sounds like a blanket draped over the front of the amp -- I don't like it. There are a lot of Les Pauls (from every era) that just sound that way, no matter what -- muffled, overly loud, muddy, etc. Seems almost rarer to come across the truly clear, singing ones like Bloomer's.I usually like Rhett's videos, but I thought this one missed the mark. He has this gorgeous Burst in his hands, plays it through some sort of setup that doesn't sound good at all, and never even answers the very question proposed in the title of the video. All that pontificating about old wood, pickups, players and nothing, really, about what the sound actually is.
It is a gorgeous top, though. I bet that guitar is priced just absurdly...
What you wrote explains why Burst tone was never reproduced.Sounds like a blanket draped over the front of the amp -- I don't like it. There are a lot of Les Pauls (from every era) that just sound that way, no matter what -- muffled, overly loud, muddy, etc. Seems almost rarer to come across the truly clear, singing ones like Bloomer's.
I enjoyed the sound and playing on this video much more than the op's. Considering that not all Bursts sound the same, not all players play the same and not everyone's tonal preferences are the same, it is rather remarkable that we even have a common ground to discuss these issues.
This and we have no idea what microphone was used to record the audio portion of said video.I think a larger problem with trying to get 'the burst sound' across is with the fact YouTube videos are going to compress the sound on the video and the recordings themselves are often not helpful either.
Was it this album?These and similar videos are all the same to me--they raise my expectations and then there is the big letdown when I hear the guitar. Ian Bairnson is one of my favorite players, but I still don't care for the sound of that burst. The treble sounds too thin to me and the low end is flabby to my ear. You wanna hear great burst tone? Listen to Mike Bloomfield on the live album he made with blues singer Nick Gravenites. (I forget the title, and I no longer own the record.). Listen to Duane and Dickey on At Fillmore East. Listen to Dickey on Wipe the Windows, Check the Oil, Dollar Gas. (I know that Dickey was probably using a goldtop on those albums, but his tone was killer.) I think people loved these guitars because the low end was tight and the treble wasn't an ice pick through your eardrum. How much of this was the guitar and how much the amplification? People can debate this until pigs fly (and they probably will). Why don't people show the same reverence and worship for 1957-58 goldtops, which are more or less identical except for the color and figure of the maple tops? All of the senses, especially the lust of the eye, seem to be at work here. My guess is that as time goes on more and more of these pretty guitars will end up as investments in the vaults of wealthy collectors. There is no such thing as a time machine. I think the majority of us will accept this and get on with our lives.
This video sounds incredible to me and you can see the connection between player and instrument.What you wrote explains why Burst tone was never reproduced.
You are mistaken. That is exactly the definition of the Burst tone. This is why SOME musicians want this tone. This tone is clear to them cause they hear treble better than average human does. You simply hear treble less and that is why you want more of treble than Burst tone has it. That is why you dislike Burst tone.
The fact that you and roughly 90-95% of all humans buying guitars think it is too muffled is the reason they do not make them like they used to - they have the looks but sound nothing like originals, All made since 1968 are too bright, harsh, metallic, too weak in bridge too muddy in neck, nothing like human voice, metallic sounding like pounding a trash can, exactly like some funny make believe toys when compared to this tone of originals. For those who hear treble like bats.
And here is some more of original Burst tone delivered in contrast by brilliant player. Surely, you will dislike this one also. Even if it sings like a proper human voice.
Industry can make 5% of replicas, or 3% or 1% with original tone for those who can hear it has enough treble. Sadly, industry does not know all the specs that define tone.