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I sent my Lester to the store for a pickup installation and a couple of push-pull mods. They called me and told me only coil split was possible (no out of phase and series/parallel for some reason, even with 4 conductor wiring and push pull pots.) I agreed, tho I was a little let down I still was very excited tht I would have good replacements for my Epiphone mudbuckers. I got the guitar, it played amazing, and I was enjoying it, until I saw this.

The damn bridge is reversed. The screws are supposed to be towards the bridge.
Im not sure Im getting the out of phase sound, or I'm missing something, but I just want to check whether its any different to a normal installation. If not, I have to go to the store again.
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That is how they are supposed to be. All my Gibson's came that way from factory.

Not sure about the pickup issue though.
 

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No,..... that's not how they're supposed to be, good grief!

Never go back to that shop.

Take it to a REAL tech with your pre-purchased harness and don't accept bs like a sucker.
 

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The guitar is an Epiphone, and I’m pretty sure those have pickups installed the normal way.
Take it to a REAL tech with your pre-purchased harness and don't accept bs like a sucker.
Here’s the catch. There’s are no techs here in India. There’s shops where techs sit. Think of it as mom and pop stores that offer tech services. There’s no one who just specialises in repairing and modifying guitars.
I don’t know if it makes a difference sonically, but I do know the pickup in the OP is installed backwards.
This is what I want to know. Does it affect tone or something? Otherwise I honestly couldn’t care less.
 
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I really need to learn how to solder.
 

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Yes it effects tone being backwards.

It was a shitty attempt at OOP by a simpleton. It can also be done with the wiring and not have the pickup 180 off.

There is for sure someone who can do custom wired guitars there, you just have to find them. You don't really need a electrical engineer to do it though, the wiring diagrams are not very complicated

Look here, https://www.jonesyblues.com

This will get you moving and the install diagram will be decently straightforward for the installation.
 

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The guitar is an Epiphone, and I’m pretty sure those have pickups installed the normal way.

Here’s the catch. There’s are no techs here in India. There’s shops where techs sit. Think of it as mom and pop stores that offer tech services. There’s no one who just specialises in repairing and modifying guitars.

This is what I want to know. Does it affect tone or something? Otherwise I honestly couldn’t care less.
Sounds like there's a nice business opportunity for you as a guitar tech in India ;)
 

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Sounds like there's a nice business opportunity for you as a guitar tech in India ;)
I would love to learn, and I hope I can too. However, there’s a very small market and people generally prefer taking them to above stores. It’s more of a trust thing and guitar are expensive so they probably won’t just give them to guy as there’s always a chance he’ll screw the guitar up
 

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Yes it effects tone being backwards.

It was a shitty attempt at OOP by a simpleton. It can also be done with the wiring and not have the pickup 180 off.

There is for sure someone who can do custom wired guitars there, you just have to find them. You don't really need a electrical engineer to do it though, the wiring diagrams are not very complicated

Look here, https://www.jonesyblues.com

This will get you moving and the install diagram will be decently straightforward for the installation.
Thanks a lot.
I can’t seem to find any wiring diagrams tho. Also I’ll have to acquire a soldering iron and practise using it before I do anything on my guitar.
 

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This is the spot to buy a harness to do what you want. Diagram will come with it.
 

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What does that mean?
Like I said they're spinning the p/up trying to get OOP tones. It's low tech simpleton stuff. It took them two minutes and then they probably charged you for "tech work".
 

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Just take out the 4 screws holding the ring to the guitar. Then take out the 2 height adjustment screws and springs. Turn the pickup around and put in the height screws and springs and then screw it back down to the guitar. It's really not that big of a deal to fix.
 

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Like I said they're spinning the p/up trying to get OOP tones. It's low tech simpleton stuff. It took them two minutes and then they probably charged you for "tech work".
Oh like the Gary Moore tone.

Just take out the 4 screws holding the ring to the guitar. Then take out the 2 height adjustment screws and springs. Turn the pickup around and put in the height screws and springs and then screw it back down to the guitar. It's really not that big of a deal to fix.
Got it thanks.
 

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OK, I've had the requisite gallon of coffee and now am a bit more coherent.

Fixing the issue is easy as can be. Just takes a screwdriver to turn the PU around.

However, you said you were playing it and you liked it until you looked and saw the issue. Why not give it a try like it is?
 

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Oh, and to the OP...when you flip the PU, make sure to pay attention when you reinstall the PU ring screws. What you need to do is put the screw in the hole (making sure it is the correct length) and gently turn it counter-clockwise until you feel the screw rise a bit and then it will drop slightly. That is when you want to start screwing it in clockwise. It may take a few gentle twirls counter-clockwise to feel the rise and drop. You do this so you make sure the screw starts in the threads that are already in the wood. You do not want to force the screw in and cut new threads in the wood. This weakens the hole and you risk stripping it. If you feel resistance, back out the screw and try again. Don't force things.

Apologies if you knew this already.
 

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It sounds like it is a good time for you to start learning how to work on your guitar. Most things you would need to have done are not hard at all, it's just learning what to do. There are many people here who are more than willing to help people like you so you can learn. Some people can't do a set up on their guitars which is not difficult at all. Get a solder and practice a bit and before you know it you can change your own pickups, pots and switches and not have to trust or pay someone else to do it and you'll know it was done right if you do it. Roxy knows her stuff and is always extremely helpful to anyone that needs it.
 

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Oh, and to the OP...when you flip the PU, make sure to pay attention when you reinstall the PU ring screws. What you need to do is put the screw in the hole (making sure it is the correct length) and gently turn it counter-clockwise until you feel the screw rise a bit and then it will drop slightly. That is when you want to start screwing it in clockwise. It may take a few gentle twirls counter-clockwise to feel the rise and drop. You do this so you make sure the screw starts in the threads that are already in the wood. You do not want to force the screw in and cut new threads in the wood. This weakens the hole and you risk stripping it. If you feel resistance, back out the screw and try again. Don't force things.

Apologies if you knew this already.
I did not. It's very helpful thanks.
 


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