Weight lifting, what a stupid idea!

[TOMMYTHUNDERS]

Maybe I'll hit the pool to stretch out a bit. I agree with doing something the next day to stay loose, but damn I'm soar

I may be going about this "old school". I appreciate all your suggestions. Goal is just to get about 50 lbs lighter, get rid of my type 2 diabetes and look good without a shirt on. It's a marathon and not a sprint. Also been pretty good with the diet, my cholesterol has finally gotten quite respectable, good is high, bad is low, although I forget the numbers.

My main goal is I'm sick of lying about the house, doing resumes all day, walking the dog, occasional guitar and being on mlp all the time, I can do better!

sounds like you have the right attitude about this. losing 50 pounds is no joke, but it's gotta be cardio, lifting, and diet. and these things need to work with each other.

I like your high rep idea, but you gotta build muscle mass too... that's gonna be the easiest way to lose weight. building muscle mass is difficult, but doing it is a must. what i suggest you do is alternate weeks. go one week doing really high reps on everything (>20) and then the next week go no more than 10 reps. your heavy weeks will take a toll, but you can prevent chronic injury with your high rep weeks. shoot to do cardio at least 3 times a week. and run. you may not be able to run at first, but work up to it. no one has ever gotten tired on an elliptical like they have pounding pavement.

 

[TOMMYTHUNDERS]

oh yeah, and to work out your legs after a knee injury here is my technique:

base your leg day off of straight leg deadlifts. they're (imo) the best hamstring and glute work out that there is. you can get very fatigued doing them and you should. there's very little pressure on the knee when doing them, but form is key. you must maintain good form when doing straight leg deadlifts. then i go and do hack squats (not leg press, big difference). hack squats are good because you can position your feet in front of your body and push off your heels. this puts a lot less stress on your knee. because you are already fatigued from straight leg deadlifts you won't be able to do as much weight, so you'll have less weight on the joint, but still get a good workout from it. after that see how your knee responds to single leg extensions.

just listen to your body. don't ignore pain signals, but know what kind of pain you are feeling and be able to distinguish what is tolerable and what is not.

 

[bertzie]

Exercises with free-weights are pretty universally superior to exercises on machines. Far more natural.

 

[sonar1]

Diabetic 62 year old here. They just closed the gym I was using (new building owners decided they could do better things with the place)!

It was once a World Gym, and Dave Draper owned it. Talked to him several times over the years. He was part owner of a couple of local World Gyms.

Guess I now either find another or get some home weights (rode my bicycle by the ocean at dawn this morning, which is great). Used to have a simple Joe Weider bench.

I no longer EVER push through pain. Pain hurts worse when you're old!

I injured my right shoulder falling off a platform at work years ago (before I retired). ANY pushing movement was out for a long time, but eventually I got back to where I could do things. During that period I did lots of high rows. They didn't hurt so I could do plenty of that type stuff and leg work (though I no longer do 300 pound ANYTHINGS)!

I'm tapering off as I age: more reps: lighter (even wimpy light), but I stay at it. Joints get to be a concern. I've had knee trouble, and sometimes hip pain, but right now is ok.

I have noticed after a layoff though that coming back I hurt two or three days after a workout rather than the next day. Watch out for that, olde guys.

 

[garweft]

My only advise is to start slow. If you haven't been very active you can have some muscle atrophy, and possibly weakened muscle attachments. The first few weeks you should go slow and allow your body to repair some of this before putting to big of a load on it.

Well that and talk to a doctor, and maybe get a full physical, before going to all out.

After that I would go with what Tommy says.

 

[ehs5mw]

Bertzie, you reading the Stronglifts 5x5 manual and just posting random ideas from it?

Not that I disagree, but it's just amusing.

 

[TOMMYTHUNDERS]

Bertzie, you reading the Stronglifts 5x5 manual and just posting random ideas from it?

Not that I disagree, but it's just amusing.

don't be silly. after years upon years of trial and error, studying athletics and personal experience this is a workout crafted by bertzie. he has finally cracked the code and figured out the one workout that is good for all humans.

 

[SKATTERBRANE]

Give it a rest for a few days, and try again. After about 2 weeks, doing it every other day, you should not have muscle pain.

 

[bertzie]

Bertzie, you reading the Stronglifts 5x5 manual and just posting random ideas from it?

Not that I disagree, but it's just amusing.

It's not random ideas from it. It's personally selected, by me, to be as relevant to the thread as possible.

 

[TOMMYTHUNDERS]

It's not random ideas from it. It's personally selected, by me, to be as relevant to the thread as possible.

yeah, bertzie is a pro!

 

[sonar1]

A pro-voker perhaps...

 

[Marshall & Moonshine]

Surfing and humping are the only forms of exercise I like.
Weights are just too damn heavy. Pick 'em up, put 'em down..... Nothing accomplished.

 

[MineGoesTo11]

Maybe just start out with some good old fashioned body weight routines?

 

[sonar1]

Maybe just start out with some good old fashioned body weight routines?

Good idea.

At my weight, that's workout enough (and heavy lifting).

 

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[acstorfer]

Duh! Steroids! Why didn't I just think of that first

 

[Torren61]

I'm no expert at workouts. Thinking about it from a common sense point of view, seems like you did too much your first day back. If you're working the same muscles without 48 hours rest, that's too soon.

Melinda and I started going back two days ago. We took it easy and spent around 35 minutes total Saturday and 35 minutes Sunday. We're both sore but not in "pain". Today is our day off. Tomorrow is upper body again but different exercises than Saturday. The day after is lower body but different exercises than Sunday. Then another day off.

The first day you come back after a long hiatis, imho, should be very light weights in the routine you're gonna use later with heavier weights. This is to wake up your muscles and tell them to get ready for what's coming later.

Your goals are achievable but will take time. Go easy the first week and a bit harder the next week and so on. Why be in a rush? You already get kudos for getting your fat ass off the couch. If you hurt yourself, you won't be able to continue PLUS you'll be in pain. That's dumb isn't it?

Diet is as important as the workout. Cut out all processed food and cook from fresh. You gotta have protein and lots of it. Tuna fish is cheap and meets the requirements.

Sleep is another key to muscle gains. You gotta get quality rest.

Those are all just my opinions and I could be wrong.

 

[damndirtyape71]

I'm no expert, but I've recently lost nearly 60 lbs and my journey has taken close to 6 1/2 months. The biggest thing you should be doing is committing to a lifestyle change. No thinking of it being a 'diet' or being a chore to 'hit the gym' it's got to become a way of life.

I was 327 at 6'4. I'm lucky I didn't have any diabetes or high blood pressure, or any other major issues.

It was a simple transition, I walked on the treadmill for 45 minutes 5 days a week for about 1 month, lost 15 lbs the first month, the second month I ramped it up to light weights and joined Weight Watchers.

I'm not going to bore you with the details, but essentially, I'm jogging 2 miles now and have added weight training, some boxing and some core/plyometrics to my schedule.

You have to find out what works for you, without injuring yourself. I'm now 267 and I don't plan to ever be this heavy again, my goal is to lose 110 lbs and get to 220. It's not a goal, it's a committment, and I am invested into this lifestyle.

Plus, I look a little cooler playing a guitar without being in the dickie-do club.

Good luck. Don't quit...

 

[Penny Dreadful]

Holy crap on a cracker! PAIN!!!!!! So this morning I took two vicodins, four aspirin and icy/hot. Still in, OMG why are you punishing me mode! What I don't get is Vicodin is good enough for knee surgery, why does this hurt like hell?

No drug will get rid of pain 100% The only method to do that is to put you right out.
All pain killers do is take the edge off. When I was in the middle of the worst gout attack I have ever had, I took three Oxy and all that did was make it bearable. It still had me in tears.