Venezuela is Crazy Right Now

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More than 620,000 soldiers and an estimated 50,000 civilians died during the Civil War. To put that in perspective, about 644,000 US military personnel have been killed in all other US wars combined. Backyard brawl my ass.
 

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See, here's the thing...

All this talk about sworn to defend & protect the Constitution is a bit irrelevant. A revolution in these United States would not be over loss of cvil rights. It would be a civil war over the differences that divide us.

Never in our history have we been so divided. And this division is turning to hatred (despite the chest thumping on both sides that "hate has no home here"). Hatred in turn will turn to violence. Violence must be suppressed. Who do you think is going to do that?

We are not seeking Freedom, as are other nations of revolution. We are not raging against tyranny and forces of evil. We are not fighting for basic human rights.

We are pissed off against each other. Not our country. Arguably, we think our leaders (on both political sides of the aisle) are failing in their duty. But, we are not riling up to remove and exile them. No. We are angry at each other. Because we cannot tolerate someone who thinks differently.

There could be a case for the poor (which are rapidly becoming a larger and larger part of the populous) uprising against the rich in a revolutionary manner. But, honestly, there is no intelligent organization behind that effort.

So, when the "revolution" comes, our military will suppress it, because it will not be a revolution against our Constitution. What it will be is a large-scale, nationwide riot.

And, it will end badly for all parties involved. Then, we WILL have the police state that we all fear.
I appreciate your breakdown here. It is a possibility of what could happen. One of many. It does vary a bit from what is happening in Venezuela currently, but I agree that could happen.

I would consider the ideals that come from or are based in socialism as a fight against our inalienable human rights. I an not angry because others think differently, I am angry because they want the government to run all aspects of my life!! This lacks liberty and is not what America was founded on.

I will consider the future and prepare but I am not going to dwell on specifics that have not and may not even happen. The glass is half full. I will acknowledge and monitor the empty half but I am going to enjoy the full half and keep my powder dry!
 

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I was watching this last night on Netflix...Ken burns Kent State...then i fell asleep.:hmm:
 
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I appreciate your breakdown here. It is a possibility of what could happen. One of many. It does vary a bit from what is happening in Venezuela currently, but I agree that could happen.

I would consider the ideals that come from or are based in socialism as a fight against our inalienable human rights. I an not angry because others think differently, I am angry because they want the government to run all aspects of my life!! This lacks liberty and is not what America was founded on.

I will consider the future and prepare but I am not going to dwell on specifics that have not and may not even happen. The glass is half full. I will acknowledge and monitor the empty half but I am going to enjoy the full half and keep my powder dry!
I think you are confusing Socialism with Communism.
 

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More than 620,000 soldiers and an estimated 50,000 civilians died during the Civil War. To put that in perspective, about 644,000 US military personnel have been killed in all other US wars combined. Backyard brawl my ass.
Your math is a bit off (see below), but conceptually your point is very valid. The civilian deaths in a potential social uprising in todays USA could be increadiby larger than we might imagine. This is not a war we are talking about, it's a revolution. Military deaths would be minimal. Civilians taking arms against other civilians would be horrible.

And, that would make the fight between the north & south look trivial.

A civil war in our current frame of mind doesn't end with learning to be neighbors and countrymen again, it ends with a purge of the losing side.
Because of this!




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I think you are confusing Socialism with Communism.
For my reference, what is the difference? They are both Marxist.


Definition of socialism

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
 

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A civil war in our current frame of mind doesn't end with learning to be neighbors and countrymen again, it ends with a purge of the losing side.
Hotel Rwanda anyone? It would be like that.
 

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For my reference, what is the difference? They are both Marxist.


Definition of socialism

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
The goal of socialism is communism. - Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
 


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