U.N. Agreement Should Have All Gun Owners Up In Arms

[TeleDog]

They think they're untouchable.

When it gets bad, they'll throw somebody under the bus and the rest will just hide out.

What's the first thing a tyrant does? Disarm the population and that, along with a military under your control, give you the upper hand. Not so fast said the Framers. But that goes with the knowledge that a person acting outside the law is NOT acting as an officer of the law and is not entitled to any special protection. See, this is why I talk about the real power to the people doesn't come with hand me downs but with a good and strong education!

You don't have to follow the orders of an officer acting outside the law. There are statutes that prevent even "misunderstandings" created by people posing as officers of the law. But how would John Doe know this if he doesn't understand the constitution is not a bargaining chip and you NEVER let go of it?

Corruption must be prosecuted. But we all need to open our eyes here, and never settle for cover up stories and funny trials. Politicians are NOT above the law, in fact, they make the law so they should know better...

 

[Nicky]

Instead of talking about issues and real substantive matters some are wasting time talking about ghosts and what ifs that are simply impossible in the eyes of the law.

Still a hot topic worthy of discussion. That's what we're all about in the USA.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

So far what I've learned is it's against the law to take our guns away and it's
just scare tactics and conspiracy theories. Then please explain New Orleans
and them taking the guns if it never is going to happen.

CW

Yes, meaning that there is a further court restriction against such matters.

Fairfax, VA-After a three-year legal battle over the unconstitutional confiscation of lawfully owned firearms, the City of New Orleans has agreed to settle a law suit by the National Rifle Association (NRA). A permanent injunction has been issued against the city, Mayor Ray Nagin and current Police Chief Warren Riley. The Second Amendment Foundation assisted NRA in the legal battle against Mayor Ray Nagin and the City of New Orleans.

“Today’s outcome is an important victory for the citizens of New Orleans and the Second Amendment,” said Wayne LaPierre, NRA’s executive vice president. “We fought for three long years in a fundamental legal challenge to assert the inherent self-defense rights for law-abiding citizens, knowing the Constitution would prevail. Today it has prevailed and freedom has won.”
Judge Carl J. Barbier presided over the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana. Judge Barbier signed the permanent injuncation against the City of New Orleans. The city admitted the firearm confiscations carried out by Nagin and Riley were unconstitutional and illegal.
I submit that the two instances are entirely disparate, and that any use of the former to warn of the latter is an absurd exaggeration.

» New Orleans Mayor Admits Illegal Gun Confiscation Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

I submit that these precedents will do their job and stand as warnings to officials who don't take their oaths to the constitution seriously.

 

[bertzie]

They think they're untouchable.

When it gets bad, they'll throw somebody under the bus and the rest will just hide out.

Well, since they've never been prosecuted, clearly they are untouchable.

 

[TeleDog]

Still a hot topic worthy of discussion. That's what we're all about in the USA.

Sure, I suppose. I just don't like the confusion things like this can create. For example, there's this thing that some officers take away guns from law abiding citizens and so so legally. That cannot be true, specially so after Heller.

Corruption is a different thing, and sadly, there's A LOT of that nowadays in the government, like some damn cancer!

Lying politicians who today say "No I'm innocent" and tomorrow they put up a pathetic show on tv saying they're guilty. Just an example... All excuses, no real substance.

Take that porn-Congressman for example. He doesn't quit because Vitter didn't quit. Ok, Vitter is crap and he should have quit, but ain't you doing the same? Just because a guy did wrong that gives you the power to do wrong too? I mean, please, a 2nd grader knows this... and these folks make the law you and me have to follow... PATHETIC!

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

Well, since they've never been prosecuted, clearly they are untouchable.

Where there's a will, there's a way. It's just a matter of getting an attorney with the will: Leon Jaworski - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[TeleDog]

Well, since they've never been prosecuted, clearly they are untouchable.

Corruption, plain and simple. They keep passing the hot potato down to the next in line till they hit somebody without the right connections or the right "info" that will ruin their careers... then that's the one who'll face trial.

That's not the system, that's the PEOPLE running the system and abusing it. That's why the polls are the best way to make things straight again.

 

[mudfinger]

Really, I should be concerned about what the U.N. does?

 

[TeleDog]

Really, I should be concerned about what the U.N. does?

No why? You should be concerned with stuff politicians try to pull here!

 

[Engel]

an article by LARRY BELL

What, exactly, does the intended agreement entail?

While the terms have yet to be made public, ....

So it's all hear say and gossip. GJ Larry Bell.

 

[River side]

Did I mention I signed away my FFL a couple weeks ago?

What happened?

Back in the '60s, they'd revoke an FFL if the holder didn't actually maintain a storefront.

Was it something like that?

 

[lespaul01]

Yeah, I would figure you as more of an Alan Grayson type.
No doubt.

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Guess it beats being an utter jag off type.

 

[mudfinger]

Wait, so who's coming to take my firearms?

 

[Publius pro tem]

Guess it beats being an utter jag off type.

When are you supposed to graduate from high school?

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

Goddamnit, you two!

 

[Publius pro tem]

What happened?

Back in the '60s, they'd revoke an FFL if the holder didn't actually maintain a storefront.

Was it something like that?

Nope.
They were more than happy with my facilities.
I was not exactly a "kitchen table" gun dealer.

It was up for renewal May 1.
I had already sh!t-canned my tax number in April due to our sales tax rate going to 10.3%

I was gonna renew the FFL and just let it sit dormant until I figured out what to do.
A county store front or what....

Then more news came to light regarding what the BATFE was doing to the biggest AZ dealers.
Creating straw-man purchases - fully in compliance - to run a bunch of guns into Mexico.

Look into it on the web if you care - "Operation Fast & Furious" is one name.
"Project Gunrunner" is another.
California Rep. Darrell Issa is currently leading the charge - I'm sure you know of him.
He's Chairman of the House Oversight Committee.

The BATFE is doing some dirty sh!t again - or still.
You'd think that Ruby Ridge, Red's Red’s Trading Post, and the Branch Davidian compound was enough.

Doesn't look like it.

Anyhow, I was trying to get an agent to tell me what my best approach was.
Playing phone tag, then they decided to do a random compliance check at my place.
Well - I wasn't home.

More phone tag and baloney.
Tried to meet with them in town since I live so far west of town - their idea initially.

Finally got tired of the bullsh!t and told them that I was gonna simply fold my tent.
What do I need to do with my paperwork?

"Oh, we can come on out and pick it up."

Fine with me.
Come on out.

I had the required paperwork waiting for them.
Agent flips through it briefly and asks
"So you're surrendering your license instead of renewing?"

Yeah, I think so.
I asked if she wanted to see my facilities, safes, files, public notices, etc.
She sorta sighed and agreed, followed me around for a minute and then said
"Okay, good enough. Thank you."

Gathered my files, walked out, got in the car and drove away.

Didn't give a damn about how I ran my business, or where I kept any guns.
Didn't ask about security, nothing.
The paperwork is all they cared about.

How reassuring, eh?

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[River side]

Neo, that's a shame.

 

[SteveGangi]

But Biden made you feel warm and fuzzy?

Not even. Sometimes it is just a matter of which choice stinks less.

 

[SteveGangi]

The last thing I want in a president or ANY politician is a good talker. "Good talkers" are nothing more than used car salesman...full of bull shit.

I guess then Kennedy and Reagan and Ike and Jefferson (and a few others) all sucked.

 

[SteveGangi]

... the One New World Wide Order of fries....

Supersize?