To T-Top or not?

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Damn good question,brother.....
I know, right? I mean I get that they aren't for everybody...but for folks looking for crunch that plays extremely well with MV amps and distortion pedals, it's my favourite. The music made with T-Tops is legendary, I can't see why people wouldn't want that for themselves.
 

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There’s some pretty good “ top “ replicas being wound out there, y’all would think that Gibson would maybe notice that. Just my 2cents:laugh2:
 

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There’s some pretty good “ top “ replicas being wound out there, y’all would think that Gibson would maybe notice that. Just my 2cents:laugh2:
Craig Vineham's '6070' and '6070 Classic' are magnificent! I've heard others gush over their ReWind and ECP T-Top clones as well. I luv RAWK, from the 60's to the present and I find they are perfect for everything I like to play and cover.
 

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I started putting long A-4 ThroBak magnets in T-Tops back in 2014. I think I have like 6 or 7 T-Tops. Certainly not a PAF(I have a few of those) but still and really nice sounding pickup! The problem with T-Tops is they use either short A-2's or short A-5's that are either very strong or very weak. I have a nice gauss meter and can attest to their magnetic shortcomings.. I have a T-Top in the neck of a `63 reissue block inlay ES-335TDC (very late 2014) and an early Pat.# in the bridge. Only difference between the Pat.# and a PAF is the decal. Identical for all intense purposes.
 

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Anybody who remotely believes a t-top and a PAF are anywhere near the same league needs their EARS examined by a professional..

T-tops are obnoxiously middy pickups that have the ability to make a normally good sounding tube amp sound like SH1T. You certainly cannot hurt the tone or lack of, by magnet swapping.

Yes there are guitar heroes who made good records with them, and like PAFs all are not created equal but for the most part, they are just run of the mill midrangey and honky sounding junk that Gibson mass produced as cheaply as humanly possible. Kills me when I see ppl glorifying the worst sounding pickups Gibson/Norlin ever made, JUST because they are "Vintage." What is it about old that makes people think they should sound good because they are old? I don't get it. Most of them sounded like sh1t when they were new, and time hasn't magically transformed them into anything better.

I guess I got spoiled by real PAFs over the years, and you can rag on me if you want to but any serious player that has ever owned real PAFs will take one look at a t-top and toss the bitch into the garbage. There's nothing you can do to fix one except rewind it and you might as well start with a mojotone bobbin and make a whole new pickup for that matter.

I'd take an early non-stamped pat sticker t-top and rewind it, the steel in the slugs and screws before about 1966 is different, it would make a right cool PAF clone, but that's the one single thing an early t-top has going for it.

Mag swap it! Can't possibly hurt it!
Totally agree, the pickups in my 72 Custom (see Avatar) sounded like sh#* so i replaced them, but kept them for when i sold it
After many years, i decided to buy a Lollar T-Top, for another LP of mine, thinking with the passage of time things may be different, but alas, not to be, and i got rid of it the next day.
Horrible
PAF style pickups with A2 mags are IMO the true Gibbo sound, especially SD CS Pearly gates !
 
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490 humbuckers, still very similar to T-Tops in construction and even a bit in tone, especially after magnet swap.
I have to strongly disagree with this statement. This is an urban legend based on sheer hearsay that simply refuses to die. Both p'ups are tonally almost polar opposites. T-Tops are bright, crisp and snappy, 490Rs are wooly and sweet, even after the short A5 mag swap.
 

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What is the modern Gibson equivalent to a T-Top?
Damn good question,brother.....
I know, right? I mean I get that they aren't for everybody...but for folks looking for crunch that plays extremely well with MV amps and distortion pedals, it's my favourite. The music made with T-Tops is legendary, I can't see why people wouldn't want that for themselves.
There’s some pretty good “ top “ replicas being wound out there, y’all would think that Gibson would maybe notice that. Just my 2cents:laugh2:
Yeah, I actually like T-Tops. 57s not so much.
Let me just pop in here and say that Dave from Sigil made me a custom 53mm hummer for my Lester recently that is the definition of T-Top!

Fits what Dougie said to a tee! Honky, brash, loud mid-range and without much prettiness compared to my Shaws.

But in the middle with the Shaw neck the chime is sublime! It's my favorite position now.

Cranked it sounds really good with lots of power and string separation.

Even my band mates looked over in surprise a couple times when I cranked it up. They liked how it sounded too. Raw and raucous like a vintage Les Paul should sound. It makes a statement!

But it is no pretty thing by itself for sure, but cranked its like a chainsaw!

And he made it from Mojotone parts I provided. Purely an experiment. Amazing results!
 

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I believe somebody with great t top replicas is brandonwound pickups. He even uses actual real t top bobbins. Now i don't have any experience with his t tops but i do with his PAT# in my sg standard. Those are some of the clearest crisp and touch sensitive pickups I've ever played. They sound really good and people rave about his t top clones.
 




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