To age or not to age?

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Jesus Christ on a bike, dude! Lighten up! If only the collectors want something - guess what?!

Dude, I am as light as it gets. Haha, ambien and a Loratab put a smile on my face before bed time.

Not angry about it. Just think it is a silly idea to strat scrubbing paint of your guitar and age crap to make it look old.

I be too busy playing to have time for that undertaking anyway. Play it hard for long hours and that neck will have a nice feel soon enough and it will be real, not artificial. Real is always more comfy that artificial.

PLay, PLAY, play your guitar and take good care of it. Wipe it down and treat it right. You will be happy in the long run. Start screwing around with it, you won't be happy in the long run, it will look stupid or cheap, and it will have crappy or no resell value.

Now go do what you want to do. Your quitar. Have fun with it. Just bear in mind the flip side to the logic behind this desire to amateur relic.

Don't get me wrong, I did some stupid stuff to a litany of guitars back in the late 70s and early 80s, but I was very young and dumb and my parents paid for everything.
 

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Dude, I am as light as it gets. Haha, ambien and a Loratab put a smile on my face before bed time.

Not angry about it. Just think it is a silly idea to strat scrubbing paint of your guitar and age crap to make it look old.

I be too busy playing to have time for that undertaking anyway. Play it hard for long hours and that neck will have a nice feel soon enough and it will be real, not artificial. Real is always more comfy that artificial.

PLay, PLAY, play your guitar and take good care of it. Wipe it down and treat it right. You will be happy in the long run. Start screwing around with it, you won't be happy in the long run, it will look stupid or cheap, and it will have crappy or no resell value.

Now go do what you want to do. Your quitar. Have fun with it. Just bear in mind the flip side to the logic behind this desire to amateur relic.

Sure that might work if you dont have three kids, job and a life.

Basically it works in your world but you should look at different circumstances.

Just for the record I highly doubt I would relic my guitars as they get played pretty hard.
 

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I do not want to relic shit. Not myself, not my wife, not my guitars, not my dogs, cats or pig (yes, pig). I just don't think anyone should be putting anyone else down for wanting to do it. I understand it. We may not all be around to enjoy the fruits of our abuse of our possessions. And when someone jumps in to rain on the parade, I say:

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People can do whatever they want to their guitars. No need to bitch about it. :laugh2:

Oh, yeah, I agree. See my last sentence of my last post. Been there and done that. Ruined a few nice guitar finishes. Back in 83 I ruined an Exlporer with some EVH type stripes and the knife pentrated the finish, because I was smart enough to trim the strips to fit and contours while the tape was on the guitar.

I later covered those ridges with model airplane chrome monocote and gave tht guitar a mirrowed finish. Kind of cool of stage, but totally ruined the guitar and the monocote did not last long, got wrinkly and etc.

Jus one example of many guitars I destroyed over the years. Live and learn. do what you want, but I can still believe the whole relic thingy is silly and the market for these so called relics will go in the crapper sooner than later.
 

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do what you want, but I can still believe the whole relic thingy is silly and the market for these so called relics will go in the crapper sooner than later.
But you said only collectors would want them... That would not send the market into the crapper, quite the opposite.
 

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very nice guitars guys, thanks.

I have started the aging, i started with the inlays and logos
putting them under my special paste that ages them in minutes
to a nice color and not that yellow/ greenish fake i see in a lot
of necks.

plastic parts are going well with another paste that simulates aging.

the nickel parts i will think about it, but putting the same paste on them
simulastes in a non permanent way a tarnished metal and its looking good.

I have a question to does of you that had those guitars aged, how is the paint? did it loose that new look? does it look scratched?

thanks.

i'll post some photos later.

Nicolas.
 

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I do not want to relic shit. Not myself, not my wife, not my guitars, not my dogs, cats or pig (yes, pig). I just don't think anyone should be putting anyone else down for wanting to do it. I understand it. We may not all be around to enjoy the fruits of our abuse of our possessions. And when someone jumps in to rain on the parade, I say:

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After dude screws up his guitar, he may say, wow, I should have listened to that 996turbocab dude before I whacked out my guitar and made it ugly and unsellable.
 

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After dude screws up his guitar, he may say, wow, I should have listened to that 996turbocab dude before I whacked out my guitar and made it ugly and unsellable.
I sincerely do not believe that the people doing self-relics give a flying donut about resale value. And that, my friend, is my point. Don't insult people for what they want to do for themselves.

If you want to give them investment advice, they'll give it the value of what they paid for it. But no need to denigrate their taste.
 

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But you said only collectors would want them... That would not send the market into the crapper, quite the opposite.

Nope. Not what I am saying. The custom shop Rory Gallghers and etc. that are reliced by master builders at Fender and etc. are destined for collections. Although, those makrets are seemingly very weak at the moment and these guitarsa re not moving well at all.

My beat to hell 68 reliced the old fashion way is a player and will always be a player. I guess collectible solely predicated upon the year, but, trust me, this one is a player and plays better than any Les Paul I have ever touched. Its flaws were all accidentally and attributable to aging and I have placed hardware.

Now if I began removing paint from my 2008 Traditional or putting aged parts on it, it is now a fabricated wanna be relic made by an amatuer. This guitar will lack any collectability unless the amatuer makes it big one day (EVHs guitar for example).
 

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I sincerely do not believe that the people doing self-relics give a flying donut about resale value. And that, my friend, is my point. Don't insult people for what they want to do for themselves.

If you want to give them investment advice, they'll give it the value of what they paid for it. But no need to denigrate their taste.

What do you care???
 

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To bad to becuase Im sure the OP was just looking for some FREINDLY advice.
Me agree. Boxing kitteh's are bad enough, but boxing bunnies are much, much, much wurst.
 

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I' just let it age naturally as it actually ages

Smart man. Does relicing really make it play or sound better? Or is relicing just a way of having a guitar pretend to be something that which it is not. If I jumped up on stage with a Rory Gallagher Strat, 99.99 percent of the people who actually noticed it would probably be like poor dude must suck if he cannot afford to buy a guitar with some paint on it.

Seriously, if it makes one happy to age your guitar, by all means. Have at it. I can still think the whole relic thingy is stupid and silly. Just a new marketing ploy to move guitars and projects to keep the master builders and custom shop workers busy.
 

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Its Fake And Its pathetic to do that to a guitar,ITS FAKE FAKE FAKE,all these wannabeezzzzzzz,PATHETIC PATHETIC PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Its Fake And Its pathetic to do that to a guitar,ITS FAKE FAKE FAKE,all these wannabeezzzzzzz,PATHETIC PATHETIC PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, you said in two sentences what I was trying to say in 10 paragraphs. My communication skills are either sucking this evening or I am just being too verbose. We said there, dude.
 

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Oh, and FU, FU, and FU. Just so's ya know.
 

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