Tired of comic book movies

THDNUT

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Comic book movies give me nightmares so I don't watch them anymore.
 

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Today's pop culture has shifted largely towards escapism. A part of that is the decentralization of society, which has led to an entire generation being able to ask each other why we're supposed to stop liking something after an arbitrary age and not being able to come up with a good answer. Another part of that is life just sucks, and people want to get away.

Superheroes haven't been just for kids in almost 60 years. One of Stan Lee's goals when he embarked on creating the Marvel universe was to give them depth and subtext that would appeal to teenagers and adults. A character like Spider-Man, who's stories largely focused on the troubles in his personal life and his shortcomings as a superhero, is worlds away from someone like Superman or Batman, characters who until the 70s were written in the very formulaic and safe manner you're describing.

If you only look at superheroes at a surface level and only see the colorful costumes and fantastic abilities, then there's very little there. But there's more to it than that.

I say all of this as a guy who 1) has a superhero avatar and 2) is tired of comic book movies.
 

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ha, funny you say that OBK. My Niece was playing my Ps4 Spider-Man game this weekend and was like, "would you want to be Spider-Man?" and I told her, "No" and when she asked why I said, "because his life is terrible."

Everyone he knows dies, he can't hold down a job, he's constantly broke and on the verge of homelessness, he can't keep a girlfriend (or he accidently kills her),...Peter Parkers life with the one exception of gaining superpowers,..is a nightmare. And has been since he was a kid and lost his parents.

A lot of Marvel characters are written much deeper than DC characters. You are correct.

(I've also grown tired of the movies however. How many times are we going to see a magical portal over a city, or see New York destroyed? :laugh2: )
 
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I have a love for pedals, but that's about it. I use everything I own or it's up for sale. I guess I'm boring? (fair game if you're talking about my playing!)

you may have something you don't even think of as a "collection", like t-shirts or something.

Unless you're living a spartan and totally minimalist lifestyle (which is possible) you probably collect something. Could even be mp3's,..or porn links,..(doesn't have to be a physical item). But it seems like human nature to collect something. Everyone I know collects something. And almost no one collects the same things.

..except here I guess you see folks with lots of guitars. But how many guitar collectors know another guitar collector IRL? Most guitarists I know have 'a few' guitars, but I've only ever met a couple that had ten or more.

I totally admit I have a ridiculous amount of Godzilla figures though. And I want more. :laugh2: Like Soultramp points out, the good ones aren't cheap so I have a hard time thinking of them as "toys". They don't get played with. :laugh2:

….though some tiny wrecked buildings I could spread around them would be fun. :laugh2:
 

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Some are ok. Lots of them have a bunch of sjw bs, marvel especially.
Captain America Civil War was good, WW was (surprisingly) great. Thor Ragnarok was pretty funny. Deadpool and Logan (opposite ends of the funny spectrum) were both great. I like the new Spider-Man movies too.
As with anything, the movie is only as good as its villain.

But I took the wife to see Stan and Ollie last night and loved it. Steve Coogan and John C Reilly are shockingly amazing in it. Great story, even if you aren’t fans. I never really watched them, but I’m gonna start. Don’t let the PG rating fool you: it’ll bore your kids out of their minds.
 

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*sigh*

...now I want a small wrecked city to display Godzillas in

( @Marshall & Moonshine John C Reilly is a great actor. I've liked him since The Perfect Storm. He's good at becoming the character he's portraying. )

It’s crazy that he goes brilliantly from Gangs of New York to Stepbrothers to this. The wife loves Laurel and Hardy and she said he was “indistinguishable” from the real thing.
He really is a great actor.
It shocked the hell out of me.
Coogan was fantastic, too.
Hell, everyone was. Their wives were almost as funny as they were.
 

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Embarrassed to admit it in public, but I love 'em (Marvel movies anyway).
Grew up on Marvel comics while all my bud's were into Brit comics (why, I have f' all idea!).
I treat 'em as posessing the same intelligence as the comics but interested to see some of the storylines transposed for Hollywood.
Most of the "origin stories" have not only changed from the comic versions, but also earlier versions of the same movies.

The three good Batman movies are the only DC movies I have been able to endure.

Be honest, there's not a whole lot of intelligent movies anyway.
At least the 'super-hero' movies have been opening up some new story lines for the kids and pushing the boundaries of CGI.
I love a fiction movie to show me new worlds and Marvel's been doing that.

Only thing I don't like is more for Marvel Bullpen than their movies, 'per se':-
If they got any more politically correct.... well, I'm just going to have leave to leave it right there (Iron Woman; Thoress; She-Hulk; Turns out I couldn't leave it there after all. :D)!

[edit: ...And if I ever hear of a "Sgt. Nicola Fury" I will stop watching completely, so they won't get any more of my cash!]
 

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I enjoy them. Simple, action packed fantasy and escapism.

My day to day job has a fair amount of stress and real violence in it so its nice to get away for a while.
 

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(I've also grown tired of the movies however. How many times are we going to see a magical portal over a city, or see New York destroyed? :laugh2: )
May I suggest [one of my favourite movies of all time] "Bette Blue"?
I'm sure I've posted it here before.
It's French but has subtitles if required.
Some R-rated scenes but they are key to the movie, rather than simply gratuitous.
I would never normally admit to liking anything French.
;)
Stars Beatrice Dalle, who is superb (although not the only one) in it.
I have it on DVD and re-watch it as often as Godfather 1 & 2 and Pulp Fiction.
Now I think about it, I shall do that again this evening.
:)
 

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I'm not tired of comic book movies or TV series.

I'm tired of BAD comic book shows.
The last batch of X-Men movies are good examples of bad comic book movies.


My first gripe. Quit trying to tell the EPIC story lines that took years to tell in the comics IN ONE MOVIE. Just tell a good story.

Second gripe. Don't pull a Snider and fundamentally change the characters.

Third gripe. Quit changing the characters ethnic, sexual orientation, or gender. Just be creative (heaven forbid) and make a new character.

I don't want to be taught some left or right wing social morality.
I don't need to have the hero's having sex with each other.

When I watch these shows. I'm really not that focused on the plot. Honestly. Just give me a plot I'm not punching holes in and I'm happy. When I watch a superhero movie, I want to see the hero, in their costume, using their powers, fighting the bad guy. Not a tough recipe.
 

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I'm not tired of comic book movies or TV series.

I'm tired of BAD comic book shows.
The last batch of X-Men movies are good examples of bad comic book movies.


My first gripe. Quit trying to tell the EPIC story lines that took years to tell in the comics IN ONE MOVIE. Just tell a good story.

Second gripe. Don't pull a Snider and fundamentally change the characters.

Third gripe. Quit changing the characters ethnic, sexual orientation, or gender. Just be creative (heaven forbid) and make a new character.

I don't want to be taught some left or right wing social morality.
I don't need to have the hero's having sex with each other.

When I watch these shows. I'm really not that focused on the plot. Honestly. Just give me a plot I'm not punching holes in and I'm happy. When I watch a superhero movie, I want to see the hero, in their costume, using their powers, fighting the bad guy. Not a tough recipe.

I’m not sure I’ve seen much “right wing morality” in any of these films.

(But that’s another subject.....;))
 

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I'm tired of BAD comic book shows.
The last batch of X-Men movies are good examples of bad comic book movies.
Thankfully, Marvel now has the rights back in the fold now.
There was a plan to add three X-Men, F4, and Spidey movies each, to the next phase as soon as Disney had secured the rights.
I used ta luv X-Men in the comix.
Really hope this comes off.
And F4 couldn't be any worse than Sony made them.

Third gripe. Quit changing the characters ethnic, sexual orientation, or gender. Just be creative (heaven forbid) and make a new character.
Bingo!
I really hate it when this happens.
WOMEN - if it's so important to have women heroes (heroines), go the whole hog:-
How is resorting to changing the gender of a pre-existing male hero, geminism?
Puh-lease.
If having femake super-heroes is so important, write them.
If they don't work, it's because nobody bought into it.
NOBODY CARED!
Make new ones work and leave the old ones alone for everyone who made them work to enjoy.

I don't need to have the hero's having sex with each other.
Well, hold on. Let's not be too hasty. See what's on offer.
:D
 

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The genre has the biggest potential target audience? Most profit for the $?

Other than some of the Batman movies, I've seen none of them. I was a never a comic book fan.
 

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Well, hold on. Let's not be too hasty. See what's on offer.
:D

Felicia Hardy and Harley Quinn, DC / Marvel Crossover.

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