Tim Shaws or not? thanks

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so they are shaws? I'll have to look at finding out how to measure them.. here is a pic of the body... I thought I bought the guitar in 80.. but it may have been 81.. I'll have to see if I can find the receipt
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The guitar is definitely an '81 if the pickups are original. The pickups are Shaws, again, if they are the originals.
 

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so they are shaws? I'll have to look at finding out how to measure them.. here is a pic of the body... I thought I bought the guitar in 80.. but it may have been 81.. I'll have to see if I can find the receipt
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It was definitely in the works in 1980 by that cavity stamp. Dec 1980 the body was in production.

The Shaw codes are April of 81. Must have been a sleeper... :laugh2:

My 82 has 1982 in there as well, so I'm inclined to lean towards a 1980.

Not as clean as yours, but that's 1982 smudged in the lower right.
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Could have sat on a shelf and not been sold till 81.

Lots of love in that cavity pic! :thumb:

They are Shaws.. no worries.
 

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It was definitely in the works in 1980 by that cavity stamp. Dec 1980 the body was in production.

The Shaw codes are April of 81. Must have been a sleeper... :laugh2:

My 82 has 1982 in there as well, so I'm inclined to lean towards a 1980.

Not as clean as yours, but that's 1982 smudged in the lower right.
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Could have sat on a shelf and not been sold till 81.

Lots of love in that cavity pic! :thumb:

They are Shaws.. no worries.

The code is 481....i thought 4 is April....or did we gain a month?....:p
 

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The code is 481....i thought 4 is April....or did we gain a month?....:p
I dunno..... I'm reading my post in your quote and it says April.. :dunno:

Maybe you need another cupcake, Cupcake! :laugh2:
 

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I dunno..... I'm reading my post in your quote and it says April.. :dunno:

Maybe you need another cupcake, Cupcake! :laugh2:

You snuck up and switched it didn't you?..........I swore i read March.......I'm watching you :squint: and having my cupcake amigo.
 

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Gotta get up early to keep up with Eastern time! :laugh2:
I'm up at 3:00 am every day..... i wake up the roosters.......about the time your thinking about it east coast wankee...;)
 

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so Im planning on selling the guitar.. how much more should I add to the price because of Shaws?
 

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so Im planning on selling the guitar.. how much more should I add to the price because of Shaws?

The guitar already has a value as a 1980 -81 Les Paul Custom (with Shaws)....can't add more to it.

T-Tops or Shaw's same difference.

It's like adding to the cost of a '59 burst because it has PAFs......... it should have PAFs to start with.
 

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The guitar already has a value as a 1980 -81 Les Paul Custom (with Shaws)....can't add more to it.

T-Tops or Shaw's same difference.

It's like adding to the cost of a '59 burst because it has PAFs......... it should have PAFs to start with.
what do you think is a good starting price for one.. eh.. you probably would need to see the guitar..LOL
 

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Shaw's add nothing to the value of this guitar because it is supposed to have Shaw's.

If they were missing, it would detract, but they do not "add value".

They are certainly not worth what I see some asking for them in the classifieds (and that is why they are just sitting there).

If you want a valuation post lots of good, clear photos of the entire guitar.
 

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BTW I have seen many sets of early Shaw's on double row DF base plates....remember Tim was winding DF's BEFORE he wound the PAF's.

Earliest Shaw's with dates I have seen is April 1980.

I will refrain from picking apart the post from the other forum, it is mostly correct....the big thing is during this time and with these pick-ups you can never say "They all have"....etc because that is just not true.

Hell even Tim said he never ran any with T-top bobbins, and I promise you, that is NOT true.
 
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Shaw's add nothing to the value of this guitar because it is supposed to have Shaw's.

If they were missing, it would detract, but they do not "add value".

They are certainly not worth what I see some asking for them in the classifieds (and that is why they are just sitting there).

If you want a valuation post lots of good, clear photos of the entire guitar.
can I post the pics here and you guys give me a ballpark?
 

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Moral of the story - not all Shaws are created (or sound) equal.
 

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