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On 23 January 2023, Starship underwent a full wet dress rehearsal at its launchpad in Boca Chica, Texas, during which it was filled with more than 10 million pounds of liquid methane and oxygen

Okay, I knew it was some crazy amount of fuel, but I was way off. That just seems like a nuts amount of fuel!
 

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Okay, I knew it was some crazy amount of fuel, but I was way off. That just seems like a nuts amount of fuel!
Saturn-V weighed 6 million pounds on the pad... all to get a 63,000lb CSM and 36,000lb lunar module to the Moon.
The Earth-Orbital configuration of the CSM was about half that of the lunar configuration, mostly due to reduced fuel in the service module.
 

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Figured out why the robots we are sending to Mars keep over-performing and lasting many years beyond their original planned missions....

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A hard couple of weeks for space flight history.
Sergei Korolev Jan 14 1966
Apollo 1 Jan 27 1967
Challenger Jan 28 1986
Columbia Feb 1 2003
If you care to read the narrative based on the data of what was happening during that re entry you will find it is very sad. Also lots of questionable decisions made
 

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If you care to read the narrative based on the data of what was happening during that re entry you will find it is very sad. Also lots of questionable decisions made
The same story holds true for all three accidents.
Challenger was "go fever"
Columbia was "we know there's a problem but we can't do anything to help them, lets hope for the best"
Apollo 1 was effectively "go fever".... but at least we had the excuse in 1967 that we were trying to beat the Soviets to the moon after having been behind them in rocket tech for 10 years.

Columbia was in a situation that even the ISS was not an option due to their orbital inclination, and even if they had been able to alter their orbit, they were not carrying a docking adapter, so even if they had been able to rendezvous with the ISS, transferring the crew would have been a long and tedious series of spacewalks without enough suits for everyone.

Honestly, the smartest thing NASA did during the Shuttle tenure was to switch from basic flight suits back to pressure suits (with parachutes) after Challenger.
Would the LES or ACES have saved the Challenger crew? Tough call. LES was spec'd to 40,000ft, they were at 46,000.
 

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If you care to read the narrative based on the data of what was happening during that re entry you will find it is very sad. Also lots of questionable decisions made
From what I remember, and I was not personally involved so it's all hearsay...

some big shots decide the almighty schedule mattered more than anything else (it was a common "mental condition" at NASA back then). So they died to "meet the schedule".

Of course the ass holes who make those decisions almost always have a lower level victim to take the blame. But not always.


We had a NASA guy like that. He wanted shit accepted and signed off, even after we told him it was no good. So, "by direction" our guys followed his orders. When it came out how fucking bad it was, he tried the "I never said that" crap. Problem was, we had a voice message of him ordering our folks to sign off. I had a small part in helping to end his career, AND I FUCKING ENJOYED IT.
 

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Not my image, but I've got a new scope on the way and like new guitar/golf toys hopefully it will get me back out and shooting images again.

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Had a fantastic day today visiting the Kennedy Space Visitor's Center at Canaveral. Spent 4hours doing the tour' watching videos' seeing cool rockets modules etc. The main control room from the Apollo era launches was amazing.

On the bus back from the launch pad area we passed a SpaceX Falcon 9 on a large vehicle being escorted and transported back to the SpaceX facility. It was close enough I could almost reach out the window and touch it! Very cool.

As a kid in the 60s & 70s my brother and I geeked out on all that Nasa stuff. So it was lots of fun to get up close today.

To anyone visiting this part of Florida I would highly recommend it.
 

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Had a fantastic day today visiting the Kennedy Space Visitor's Center at Canaveral. Spent 4hours doing the tour' watching videos' seeing cool rockets modules etc. The main control room from the Apollo era launches was amazing.

On the bus back from the launch pad area we passed a SpaceX Falcon 9 on a large vehicle being escorted and transported back to the SpaceX facility. It was close enough I could almost reach out the window and touch it! Very cool.

As a kid in the 60s & 70s my brother and I geeked out on all that Nasa stuff. So it was lots of fun to get up close today.

To anyone visiting this part of Florida I would highly recommend it.
That facility, as well as 'Bama and Johnson, are on my bucket list.
 

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