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not so awesome,............

https://gma.yahoo.com/student-force...violation-220415966--abc-news-topstories.html


A Florida mom is outraged that her 15-year-old daughter was forced to wear what she called a “shame suit” at school.

On her third day of school, Miranda Larkin, a sophomore at Oakleaf High School in Orange Park, Florida, was told by a teacher that her skirt was too short.

“It was right after first period,” Miranda told ABC News. “I was in the hallway and I got stopped by a teacher who told me my skirt was too short and sent me to the nurse’s office. They told me I was going to have to change and put on the dress-code-violation outfit.”

The school’s dress-code-violation outfit consists of a neon-yellow t-shirt with “DRESS CODE VIOLATION” emblazoned on the front of it in capital letters, along with red sweatpants with the same message down the right leg.

“The school has said this is to embarrass you,” said Miranda. “It’s supposed to embarrass you so you don’t do it again.”

For this student, it certainly accomplished that. Miranda said she was so upset she began breaking out in hives, snapping a photo of herself in the oversized tee so her mother

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could see the punishment.
“It was way too big. It didn’t fit,” she said. “I got really upset and asked if I could call my mom. She was really upset, as well.”

Oakleaf’s dress code dictates that skirts must be knee-length or longer. Miranda’s skirt was shorter than that, but she said the violation was unintentional. She was a new student to the school, having just moved to Florida from Seattle eight days before school started.

“She’s a good kid,” said Miranda’s mom, Dianna Larkin. “She actually has a perfect disciplinary record. I’m not a rescue mom. I really do believe in punishing my kids if they do something wrong, but this is not about punishing kids. This is about humiliation.”

A spokesman from the Clay County school district told ABC News affiliate WJXX in Jacksonville, Florida, that students who violate the dress code are given three options: to stay in their clothes and go to in-school-suspension, to wear the sweats and t-shirt as punishment and continue going to class as usual, or to arrange for someone to bring them a new set of clothes.

Miranda said she was only given one option -- to wear the humiliating outfit.

“Those options aren’t presented to you,” she said. “You have to ask for ISS. People who have asked if they can call home for a change of clothes have been told no.”

Her mother said the school bullied her daughter and violated her rights.

“I was trying to deal with this privately and was running into a brick wall,” Larkin said, explaining why she reached out to the media. “It was not my intention to embarrass the school district, but I just wasn’t getting anywhere.”

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She is threatening to file a complaint with FERPA, The Federal Educational Rights and Privacy Act, citing that a student’s record, including disciplinary actions, is private and cannot be released without her permission.

“This is harmful practice and it doesn’t teach anything,” said Larkin. “It doesn’t have any intrinsic educational value.”

In a letter to the media, Larkin wrote that she wanted to be “perfectly clear.”

“My problem is not with the dress code itself,” she wrote. “I am actually a proponent of school uniforms (which trust me does NOT make my kids happy), and believe that if you break the rules of the school you should be punished regardless of your opinion of the rule itself. My problem is with the public shaming of kids.”

Her daughter also felt this particular punishment was wrong.

“A punishment would be fair, but I don’t agree with the punishment they’ve been using,” Miranda said.

“It does not lessen the disruption in school, it enhances it,” Larkin added.

Neither the school district nor the high school responded to ABC News’ requests for comment. However, a district spokesman told WJXX that the district was open to other solutions for dress code violations.
 

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Zero tolerance had gone too far.

Personally, if it were me and due to my naturally rebellious attitude, I would have about ten of those shirts made and were them every day of school for the rest of the year. I'd probably get expelled.
 

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Zero tolerance had gone too far.

Personally, if it were me and due to my naturally rebellious attitude, I would have about ten of those shirts made and were them every day of school for the rest of the year. I'd probably get expelled.

It'd be a great band name. :thumb:
 

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It sounds like there is some BS floating around here, perhaps on both sides.

My kids' schools have "dress codes" (if you can even call them that) and if they violate them they get sent to the principal's office and some sort of other sanctions (not sure, haven't had to deal with that, yet). My kids know what the code is and if they violate it, they are going to have to deal with the consequences. At my kids' schools, they (administrators) have better things to do than to randomly and capriciously cite kids for nonexistent code violations (that's why I detect a whiff of BS).

I find it hard to believe that she was "coded" for wearing the skirt as she claims to have been wearing it. That just seems "odd." Perhaps it was rolled up (around the waist band) or pulled way up under her blouse. I also don't buy the "broke out in hives" line about the t-shirt and sweats. Who knows? Who cares?

Further, get over it. It isn't like Russia just invaded your home land or ISIS beheaded your dog so, move the f*ck along.
 

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From the high school kids I've seen walking to school, you'd have to be butt naked to get that consequence.
My daughter is 1. When she goes to high school I hope that Amish fashion is the rage.
 

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It sounds like there is some BS floating around here, perhaps on both sides.

My kids' schools have "dress codes" (if you can even call them that) and if they violate them they get sent to the principal's office and some sort of other sanctions (not sure, haven't had to deal with that, yet). My kids know what the code is and if they violate it, they are going to have to deal with the consequences. At my kids' schools, they (administrators) have better things to do than to randomly and capriciously cite kids for nonexistent code violations (that's why I detect a whiff of BS).

I find it hard to believe that she was "coded" for wearing the skirt as she claims to have been wearing it. That just seems "odd." Perhaps it was rolled up (around the waist band) or pulled way up under her blouse. I also don't buy the "broke out in hives" line about the t-shirt and sweats. Who knows? Who cares?

Further, get over it. It isn't like Russia just invaded your home land or ISIS beheaded your dog so, move the f*ck along.

:rolleyes:
 

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Relax girlfriend...now you've got "street cred". :cool:
 

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Conformity begets obedience. Once the system can pressure you, shame you or otherwise coerce and indoctrinate you into conforming and obeying while still young, it makes it makes it much easier for the system to control you as an adult.
The school system would be talking with my lawyer. To me there's a much larger issue at stake here than simply the length of a skirt.

for the record..I went through similar shit when I was a teenager and had long hair.
 

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Gee back when I was going to school if were something that school didn't like they either call your parent and have your parents take you home and make you change.
 

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Bad approach. Clearly, they should have just tazed her and sent her home.
 

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when did teachers become penologists?
passive aggressive behavior on the faculty's part
is this district wide punishment or just this school?

couldn't they just have a yellow or white tee shirt along with the generic sweats?
 

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I had a dress code violation once. It was for wearing shorts. I was sent to the deans office and my parents were called. Their choices were to either bring me pants or take me home. My sister brought me pants and I went back to class. I never made that mistake again.
 

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Back in my day if you didn't turn up in school uniform, ie black shoes, black slacks, navy blue v neck sweater, white shirt & school tie with a black blazer you were turned away from school, there was no phone calls home because nobody had an house phone or not many did lol.
 

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Interesting.

I taught in a parochial high school many years ago. The girls wore plaid skirts Well, naturally with there being many boys about, they used to enjoy hiking them up. Quite a ways. It really was ridiculous.

Still, there were rules in place and consequences followed such behavior.

Personally, I think they ought to have changed the dress code for girls to pants. No doubt a delightful bunch of them would have shed them and trolloped about the halls and cafeteria in naught but their pantyhose. :laugh2:

Teenagers.
 

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My children's school has a dress code (thankfully) My daughter managed to get busted, but she was able to call home. I on the other hand was furious at her for what she was wearing.

That never happened again, trust me.
 

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I had a dress code violation once. It was for wearing shorts. I was sent to the deans office and my parents were called. Their choices were to either bring me pants or take me home. My sister brought me pants and I went back to class. I never made that mistake again.

This.

That is a proper response that should be taken. This is how even the police would operate 25-30 years ago. "I'm gonna call your father" was usually enough "scared-straight" to wake you up and correct your actions.
 

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how things have changed
all the girls at my school wore knee length skirts and cast iron drawers but it was the 1960's
 

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That school just taught that girl to be combative towards them.

"Heres your shame suit, this may be the first time in your life you're subject to bullying by someone thats supposed to be in charge of you. Go ahead and don't trust us anymore and get used to disobeying."

The girl was just too nice, and her school administration taught her they aren't there for her, they're there for them. I hope she learned the most valuable lesson in all of this - you can always say NO to anyone!

When I was in high school if someone tried to make me wear a 'shame suit', I'd have either flushed it down the toilet so it flooded the place, or decorated it in permanent marker and worn it every day until they tried to make me stop. Then Id make my own and wear that. In a month everyone would have one.


As far as high school uniforms, I can't think of anything MORE distracting than a proper plaid skirt. If I had a daughter, I WOULD NOT EVER let her go to a school with a "school girl uniform" on. Sorry, never gonna happen. No ****in way!
I still vividly remember sneaking onto private school campuses in high school. When chicks see uniforms all day, the first guy they see with long hair and torn jeans looks like he's on MTV.
 

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