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SteveC

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They're hiding in Brazil.
 

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So by the landholder logic, do you get more votes per amount of land you own? Does someone with a small apartment in the city get the same vote as a rancher? But people who have not invested in property - perhaps intelligent people who have invested elsewhere or are living overseas don't get a say? But if you're a dumbass with an inherited house, then you get a say? Just asking for a friend....
 

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So by the landholder logic, do you get more votes per amount of land you own? Does someone with a small apartment in the city get the same vote as a rancher?

It depends on how many acres he has.
 

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Cool. So the more land, the more votes. Can't see that being abused lol. Still, better than votes being accrued by a persons wealth....
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hang on...
 

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Lolz - I'm just playing with yas. Heck, the country I live in doesn't even exist so it's not my problem. I'm just playing devils advocate here.

So let's assume the old man owns property. I turn 18, 21, 33, 45 - whatever. As long as I'm living under his roof I don't get a vote?

Also -if the house is in the missus' name does that mean I don't get a vote or vice versa?
Just pointing out what I see as flaws in the argument..

Again, I have no skin in the game I'm only poking fun.

Oh, and Pizza and cake are exempt from the social media food black-out. Especially if you share.
 

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Should felons that have served their time be allowed to vote?

I say yes.

Back in the *good old days* you have to be a land owner to vote. Very thankful I live now, and not back then. I also support a photo ID requirement for voting. Voter fraud is a real thing.

What say the fine members of MLP?

I didn't think I would ever post that word.
But here it is.
In caps.

The right to vote...
CAKE
 

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Lol. Russians and IDs and dead voters oh my!

No ID for voting
Let 16 year olds vote
Let felons in prison vote
Do away with the electorate college

Don't those sound like grand (insane) ideas.

If we did away with the electoral college New York and California would decide every election from here on out. Why would we ever want to do that?
 

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if they serve their Time, pay the fines and don't re- offend, after 5 years, then they can vote, except for murderers or violent sex crimes.
 

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Jesus. Can't tell if there's a carbon monoxide leak in here, or are people being deliberately obtuse.

Landowner...mortgage holder, title holder...someone paying property taxes. Is that a little more lucid?

You forgot about investment in permanent human capital. That has got to be worth something, loke, I don't know, 3/5 of a vote?
 

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I'd like to see voting limited to citizen taxpayers (by taxpayer, I mean those who actually contribute - not those who file a return and get back all or more than they paid).
When I joined this site, I had no idea there would be so many ignorant, racist, misogynistic dimwitted assholes here. Lets see so under your rule anyone with a net operating loss in a given year could not vote? No you probably just intend to apply it to the poor. Do you think poor people are entitled to less rights than the rich? Perhaps there is a class of people who didnt ask to be born poor in a ghetto and a society with structural barriers to success? I grew up dirt poor and for all my native intelligence I would never have succeeded without a government that made higher education possible for me. I ended up a lawyer and did well but I havent forgotten what it was like or the people I knew. And so the people who contribute - who are they, the rich who have exploited the resources of our country to become wealthy and rely upon an underclass. What amazes me is you are probably not rich. Certain classes have controlled the lower classes by making them hate each other - you know, like the myths that people on food stamps have a great life, or the way we villainize the poor in this country because they must not have worked hard enough. Nobody villainizes a rich sack of shit who doesnt work. Or make working men want to blame immigrants for lost jobs. We are in trouble and our democracy will be given away by biased unthinking people. Rich people get welfare in this country - its called connections and tax cuts and a lot of other insider advantages. I am getting old but will never be a scared old white man afraid of change. About now this captain dave the HOA president will appear to strike me down. I notice he lets the "conservative" assholes run amok. So throw me off the site I havent learned a thing about playing guitar here - I just see a lot of jerks, and some decent people who get jumped by the jerks. PS any guy who thinks we should just execute people for a repugnant act doesnt know anything about our system of justice, which routinely convicts innocent people. Yes I think fascism is coming brought to us by scared white guys. I have watched this thread for days, and theres a lot of disgusting stupid shit on it. I dont give a fuck what you keyboard warriors think about me. Just glad I am no longer poor . As Cheney once said to Patrick Leahey ...........
 

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It would do away with those messy fly over states, and we could do away with that stupid Senate thingy.
So in your opinion some states deserve representation more than others?
 

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When I joined this site, I had no idea there would be so many ignorant, racist, misogynistic dimwitted assholes here. Lets see so under your rule anyone with a net operating loss in a given year could not vote? No you probably just intend to apply it to the poor. Do you think poor people are entitled to less rights than the rich? Perhaps there is a class of people who didnt ask to be born poor in a ghetto and a society with structural barriers to success? I grew up dirt poor and for all my native intelligence I would never have succeeded without a government that made higher education possible for me. I ended up a lawyer and did well but I havent forgotten what it was like or the people I knew. And so the people who contribute - who are they, the rich who have exploited the resources of our country to become wealthy and rely upon an underclass. What amazes me is you are probably not rich. Certain classes have controlled the lower classes by making them hate each other - you know, like the myths that people on food stamps have a great life, or the way we villainize the poor in this country because they must not have worked hard enough. Nobody villainizes a rich sack of shit who doesnt work. Or make working men want to blame immigrants for lost jobs. We are in trouble and our democracy will be given away by biased unthinking people. Rich people get welfare in this country - its called connections and tax cuts and a lot of other insider advantages. I am getting old but will never be a scared old white man afraid of change. About now this captain dave the HOA president will appear to strike me down. I notice he lets the "conservative" assholes run amok. So throw me off the site I havent learned a thing about playing guitar here - I just see a lot of jerks, and some decent people who get jumped by the jerks. PS any guy who thinks we should just execute people for a repugnant act doesnt know anything about our system of justice, which routinely convicts innocent people. Yes I think fascism is coming brought to us by scared white guys. I have watched this thread for days, and theres a lot of disgusting stupid shit on it. I dont give a fuck what you keyboard warriors think about me. Just glad I am no longer poor . As Cheney once said to Patrick Leahey ...........

Welcome aboard.

You forgot transphobic, incontinent, paranoid, bronies.

other than that a fine summary of us. Except Conservative assholes don't run amok, we walk, as one doesn't want to spill their cocktail.
 
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Oh for sure. After all those places that provide food are muddy, nasty places without nice stores and cool museums. Clean places like NYC and SF know how people should live.
Just making sure I was following your train of thought.
 

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