Terrorists come in all flavors

[Tuxedo Kaz]

Terrorism is classically defined as the use of violence against chiefly civilian targets to achieve political upheaval or political goals. Sometimes terrorism has a component of guerrilla warfare such as using asymmetrical forces (suicide bombers, IEDs, armed paramilitants) against military or government targets. But in all cases, the objective is to achieve goals through the imposition of fear, usually with the component of wanting to severely undermine or destroy the enemy society.

The Founding Fathers didn't enact their ideals through attacking civilians or civilian institutions to cause Britain to bend to their whims by fear of violence. Rather, as Geo said, they pretty much threw down the gauntlet and told them, "If you want to rule us, then come and get it."

 

[River]

I think the definition of Terrorist is : people who are under armed,overwhelmed and never win.

Define "win". If you alter the target institution's behavior in the intended way(s) by striking fear into it and the individuals for whom it takes responsibility, you've "won".

 

[KSG_Standard]

First act of terrorism on US soil of consequence was McVeigh, right?
Home grown is the worst kind.

Wrong. The first acts of terrorism on US soil occurred near the turn of the 20th century. The Anarchists bombed wall street and a building in L.A.

And don't forget about Obama's pals from the weather underground...they bombed the Pentagon and a police station...Ever hear of William Ayers?

 

[djwilbanks]

Terrorism is classically defined as the use of violence against chiefly civilian targets to achieve political upheaval or political goals. Sometimes terrorism has a component of guerrilla warfare such as using asymmetrical forces (suicide bombers, IEDs, armed paramilitants) against military or government targets. But in all cases, the objective is to achieve goals through the imposition of fear, usually with the component of wanting to severely undermine or destroy the enemy society.

The Founding Fathers didn't enact their ideals through attacking civilians or civilian institutions to cause Britain to bend to their whims by fear of violence. Rather, as Geo said, they pretty much threw down the gauntlet and told them, "If you want to rule us, then come and get it."

Yeah, maybe I chose the wrong term with "founding fathers."

But, the American armies (and militias) resorted to military terrorism during the war, and flash mobs and organized groups of radicals committed terrorist acts against AMERICAN civilians who sold stamps or otherwise helped the British enforce the various tax acts. Even the Boston Massacre was caused by a bunch of civilians that got together and threw rocks at a British regiment until, for whatever reason, the soldiers fired.

They may have thrown down the gauntlet, but to the British they were colonies full of insurgents and terrorists.

Again, it's much more complex than that, it always is, but terrorism is terrorism.

 

[The Fool On The Hill]

Wrong. The first acts of terrorism on US soil occurred near the turn of the 20th century. The Anarchists bombed wall street and a building in L.A.

And don't forget about Obama's pals from the weather underground...they bombed the Pentagon and a police station...Ever hear of William Ayers?

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[PraXis]

IRS starting to get death threats. "oh no"

 

[The Fool On The Hill]

IRS starting to get death threats. "oh no"

Last I heard the IRS were at war with the IRA.

 

[djwilbanks]

Can you threaten the entire IRS?

 

[Makeitstop]

Death threats are very much in style these days.

Got sand in yer vagina about something? Threaten somebody's life.

- D

 

[djwilbanks]

Well, if they wouldn't put the sand there. Jerks.

 

[River]

Don't judge me by my former "pals", k? And don't hate me because I'm beautiful!

DJ, I can threaten the entire IRS. In fact, I can wipe out the entire IRS - tonight, while I'm sleeping.

 

[djwilbanks]

 

[kmk108]

And the ACLU did go to bat for Fred Phelps and his repulsive family and they argued on behalf of Neo-Nazis in Skokie, Illinois, so there is precedent for them taking up for nutballs.

- D

That nutjob was protesting at my high school's graduation. He started after the school did a play about homosexuals. One of my friends mooned him. He also protests at KU Law's graduation.

 

[Makeitstop]

That nutjob was protesting at my high school's graduation. He started after the school did a play about homosexuals. One of my friends mooned him. He also protests at KU Law's graduation.

Phelps is a punk. There's an extra-warm suite in Hell waiting for that pusbag.

- D

 

[KSG_Standard]

Fred Phelps is a douchebag. He's a disbarred lawyer and he and his daughter are persona non grata in the UK. His "church" has 71 confirmed members, 60 of whom are related to Phelps.

 

[Makeitstop]

Fred Phelps is a douchebag. He's a disbarred lawyer and he and his daughter are persona non grata in the UK. His "church" has 71 confirmed members, 60 of whom are related to Phelps.

Wanna see something guaranteed to piss you right off?

Father Of Dead Marine Ordered To Pay Legal Fees Of Westobro Baptist Church Protesters

I don't agree with Bill O'Reilly on much, but kudos to him for doing a good thing if the NewsMax report is correct.

- D

 

[KSG_Standard]

I just read up on the Hutaree Militia...they weren't much of a militia, or a cult. There were 9 people arrested...5 of them are one family. Just another example of inbreeding gone bad. Another Militia helped the FBI catch at least one of them.

 

[KSG_Standard]

Wanna see something guaranteed to piss you right off?

Father Of Dead Marine Ordered To Pay Legal Fees Of Westobro Baptist Church Protesters

I don't agree with Bill O'Reilly on much, but kudos to him for doing a good thing if the NewsMax report is correct.

- D

That's bullsh!t!!! Some things just don't make any sense at all.

 

[Makeitstop]

That's bullsh!t!!! Some things just don't make any sense at all.

You got that right. Phelps should have to pay his own legal costs, not the family of a dead vet. That family has enough to deal with.

- D

 

[winexprt]

First act of terrorism on US soil of consequence was McVeigh, right?
Home grown is the worst kind.

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