Talking-Car Systems to Be Required as U.S. Weighs Rules

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No thank you...

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If they were not reading the newspaper, texting, cellphoning, if they were ummm driving and paying attention, they would not need any "bleep bloops" would they?

So Uncle Sam is being lobbied to "mandate" (as in force) this "technology" on everyone, just so the bads have an excuse to pay even less attention.


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None of this is going to help the big issue plaguing every major city, which is congestion.

The city of Toronto battles a clown mayor, transit plans are delayed and debated endlessly and every passing month gridlock gets worse.
 

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None of this is going to help the big issue plaguing every major city, which is congestion.

The city of Toronto battles a clown mayor, transit plans are delayed and debated endlessly and every passing month gridlock gets worse.


It's the drivers fault. Drivers obviously are not making the most efficient use of traffic dynamics therefore we have gridlock.... but no worries citizen, with automated traffic and vehicle control, those decisions will no longer be in the hands of individuals, efficiency will be established and the hive will eliminate gridlock and keep us safe from ourselves.

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I don't care what these new cars can do automatically. They had better have a setting that watches out for a one eyed fat man driving a 1977 Dodge Custom Van. :thumb:
 

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For those that didn't apparently read the article, all that is being proposed is mandating as standard on cars

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IMHO if a certain segment of the population knows they have a warning system 'crutch', they will be texting, talking, whatever even more.

Yes, that's what is happening now. However, the fully automated system will come along pretty shortly.
 

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So now I can have more lights flash at me and more crap beeping. I'm going to be one of those people for a minute...I HATE tech on cars these days. I grew up working on cars, I worked as a mechanic, and all this crap makes any repair 20 times the hassle it needs to be. Now after I finish my work I have to do all kinds of computer reset crap. Plus when I drive my new car I have to deal with it telling me my tire pressure is low because the TPMS sensors are bad, and it costs 100$ to replace them. I can check my own tire pressure damnit...So now we'll have cars that think they're smarter than the driver slamming on their own brakes anytime you get close to something.This is why I can't wait for spring and summer again, so I can park the new POS and go back to driving my beloved 91' Trans Am; a car that doesn't give me shit if I don't put on my seat belt when I'm just driving a few blocks....okay end of rant. I'm not a big fan of all the tech stuff that only seems to aggravate me. I like my things simple. I grew up driving real cars, even anti-lock brakes piss me off...
 

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The govt (NTIA) stood in the way of some of the most promising technology (including this type of near-field stuff) on the basis that it could interfere with aircraft navigation. Never mind that we had reams of studies and documentation that the tech produced less radiation than a hair dryer or electric razor (both allowed to be used in-flight). So, if the govt is rushing through something, the fix is in and it will likely be detrimental to the citizenry. I say, kill it where it lays.
 

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Question...


If it is such a great idea, and if it will be so wonderful, why are they lobbying to force it on us? Aren't they often the ones who cry about big bad gubmint?

If it's so great, it should sell on its own merits, not because some paid off pol was helping his cronies

LET THE MARKET DECIDE.

Also, it is just more buzzers, bells and lights. People will ignore them, or disable them when they become annoying. Or they will malfunction all on their own.
 

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When Orwell looked into the future, he saw a boot stamping on a human face, forever.

But he was a pessimist. When I look into the future, what I tend to see is one big, automated egg farm-- with human beings as the chickens.

Guess I'm a pessimist too!

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And they were all found not guilty...
 

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Don't get me started. It started with 911 and now either side will wipe their ass with your rights and the constitution. Didn't take long for the persecuted to get the hang of things and persecute on their own. With the fecking stars and stripes waving behind them.
 

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If I'm gonna pay $100 or more for an option, may I suggest a car that talks dirty and has a built-in vibrator (like a Sybian) for my wife? Isn't the goal to lower our stress level?
 

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And they were all found not guilty...

Crazy!

One time a sheriff's department swat team deployed to serve a no-knock search warrant on some dopers who lived in Port Orange... they actually got the wrong house and ended up busting in on Ma and Pa Kettle, who lived next door!

I was able to sit in court and listen during the testimony that took place during the resultant lawsuit that Ma and Pa brought against VCSO. Never did understand why the department didn't just settle out of court... this thing was such a botch that one would think they'd just throw money at it to make it go away...

One big laugh: Pa was on the stand. As it happened, he was taking a dump when the raid commenced, and one of the swat guys smashed his bathroom window in and pointed some species of AR rifle at him lest he flush the "evidence"...

Pa keeled over with a heart attack. Meanwhile, they slam dunked his wife out in the living room and then tore the place apart looking for the dope.

I knew the cop who did the window part of the operation. He was an extremely vain individual, who had recently had a dye job done to his hair, and a perm. He had all these golden-boy curls going, which was a laugh, because we worker bees tended to scoff at the "fair haired boys" of the department... and there he was: a fair-haired boy indeed! :D

But on the stand, that Pa's description of the cop's look got everybody-- even the normally-dour Judge Uriel Blount-- to LOL...

The defense was trying to say that Pa over-reacted... as if he actually tried to have a heart attack or something... and so on direct, the defense attorney adopted the sort of tone one uses on a faker...

Pa took umbrage to this insinuation and he scoffed back, saying, "Yeah? Well try this on for size, sonny! There you are, taking a shit, when somebody who resembles Harpo Marx-- but with a green and black face-- busts your window and sticks a machine gun in your snoot!"

That was the beginning of the end, too... but things did get even worse at one point: the plaintiffs dragged in the guy whose house the cops actually meant to raid-- who was subsequently busted by another agency and already did a plea deal with the state-- and he described how he drove down his street and was stopped by a police roadblock. The cops at the roadblock told him that he couldn't go to his house until the big raid was over, and shooed him away. He went on to mention that he had several kilos of coke in his van at that very moment, and how grateful he was to the police for looking out for his safety like that.. but what was especially comical was that he also mentioned how surprised he was to learn that Ma and Pa were fellow dope dealers! Said he drove away thinking, "Well I'll be damned! Looks like everybody is in this game!" And again, the courtroom exploded into laughter... :laugh2:

And that was it... right then the defense folded and Ma and Pa agreed to some settlement, bound by an NDA to keep them from blabbing to the press about it...

Pa was probably lucky that he didn't die, and Ma was lucky that she didn't suffer a concussion or something like that. And though I didn't really tell this tale well enough that everybody is gonna think it was as funny as I thought it was while listening to the testimony, I thought I was gonna die laughing in that court room...

--R :laugh2:
 

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For those that didn't apparently read the article, all that is being proposed is mandating as standard on cars

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IMHO if a certain segment of the population knows they have a warning system 'crutch', they will be texting, talking, whatever even more.
I was thinking the same thing.

Instead of all of the useless crap, they need to create a mechanism that will shut down the engine the second you touch your phone, or take your eyes off of the road.

Or, at LEAST something that can warn other drivers that you're complete ass-hat behind the wheel?

Other than that, I'm not buying into all of the "technological" BS. If I can't control my own car, I might as well walk, or ride a bike.
 

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If I'm gonna pay $100 or more for an option, may I suggest a car that talks dirty and has a built-in vibrator (like a Sybian) for my wife? Isn't the goal to lower our stress level?

I want my GPS to sound like Lisa Ann, but then I need tinted windows for long commutes on the NJ Turnpike. :naughty:
 

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Of my cars, one is an older model that I will keep forever because...it doesn't have any of this invasive technology in it. No GPS transponder, no built in communications devices and that is the way it will stay.
 

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Don't get me started. It started with 911 and now either side will wipe their ass with your rights and the constitution. Didn't take long for the persecuted to get the hang of things and persecute on their own. With the fecking stars and stripes waving behind them.

Hell. In Los Angeles, they will beat you to death in the street. But terror. But Benghazi. Nine Eleven changed everything.

Or something.
 

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