Sweetwater Les Paul Standard 60's Not Using Grover Tuners

[NightShift88]

Zzounds and Sweetwater Customs are coming with the Wilkinsons now. I emailed Epiphone and they said the same thing syco posted above. They said they are 19:1 ratio vs. 18:1 that the Grovers are. They look identical to the Grovers aside from the name.

 

[Papa Legba]

Never mind I should have read the post before mine

 

[rbraad68]

I have a set of Gold Grocers outs my 2021 Custom i will sell?? Shoot me a message i will send pics.

 

[Papa Legba]

I have a set of Gold Grocers outs my 2021 Custom i will sell?? Shoot me a message i will send pics.

I have a brand new set of gold ones myself. I took them of my Broadway. I’m keeping them though you never know when you might need a set

 

[rbraad68]

I have a brand new set of gold ones myself. I took them of my Broadway. I’m keeping them though you never know when you might need a set

Hey 60 bucks you have these I won't use the gold may as well sell off some of this stuff i have laying around. I bet you from the 12-14 epiphones i bought the past 2 yrs. I must have at least that many bridge and tail piece??!! All brandnew don't even get me started on the deluxe tuners i have like6 set of those. Should list them on Ebay and at least try and get something out of them right???

 

[noodlingguitars]

Just FYI, even the ones here now are advertised as having "Tuners: Grover Rotomatic 18:1 or Wilkinson Rotomatic 19:1" (though I haven't personally encountered one with Wilkinsons yet).

Epiphone / Les Paul Standard 60s Ebony 【S/N 22041525578】

Epiphone / Les Paul Standard 60s Ebony 【S/N 22041525578】 【名古屋栄店】 商品ページ。イシバシ楽器はご購入金額1万円以上配送料無料です。

www.ishibashi.co.jp

 

[Papa Legba]

My LP Classic Worn in gold has the Wilkinsons I emailed my sales engineer and ask why they are listed in the description as having Grovers but the photos show the other brand. He stated Grover has been unable to supply Epiphone with the tuners. As long as the Wilkinsons are of the same quality I don’t really care anymore.

 

[Wise Guy]

Maybe to save a few bucks? My Epi Standard 60's came with the actual Grovers but it wouldn't bother me either way. I've heard good things about Wilkinson.

 

[rbraad68]

Maybe to save a few bucks? My Epi Standard 60's came with the actual Grovers but it wouldn't bother me either way. I've heard good things about Wilkinson.

Prob was an issue wth supply but could of also been a way of saving costs. I have a set of the gold grovers off the 2021 custom i just redid if anyone interested...

 

[Papa Legba]

I am finding these Wilkinsons aren’t the same quality as I am used to with Grovers. Most of them feel ok but the low E string tuner is a little Jerky. It’s not super bad but I’ve never felt this with Grovers. I have a set of gold Grovers from a switch I did on my Broadway. They are 18:1 but I don’t think the gold would look right on my goldtop Classic Worn. I’m thinking of replacing them with Grover Vintage Deluxe tuners. I like the look of this style like on my 50s Les Paul. I thought about emailing Epiphone about the switch going on at Sweetwater since they’re advertised on Sweetwater’s website as having Grovers but I assume they would just say they have the right to change specs as needed.

 

[rjwilson37]

I am finding these Wilkinsons aren’t the same quality as I am used to with Grovers. Most of them feel ok but the low E string tuner is a little Jerky. It’s not super bad but I’ve never felt this with Grovers. I have a set of gold Grovers from a switch I did on my Broadway. They are 18:1 but I don’t think the gold would look right on my goldtop Classic Worn. I’m thinking of replacing them with Grover Vintage Deluxe tuners. I like the look of this style like on my 50s Les Paul. I thought about emailing Epiphone about the switch going on at Sweetwater since they’re advertised on Sweetwater’s website as having Grovers but I assume they would just say they have the right to change specs as needed.

Do the Kluson Vintage Revolution Locking tuners, they look great on an LP. They look so much better.

https://www.amazon.com/Kluson-Revolution-Locking-Keystone-Buttons/dp/B0741CK4HB/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3NRS7ANSZ2XN&keywords=kluson+vintage+locking+tuners&qid=1666310301&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIzLjUwIiwicXNhIjoiMi4yNSIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=kluson+vintage+locking+tuners%2Caps%2C130&sr=8-2&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.f5122f16-c3e8-4386-bf32-63e904010ad0

Before

After

 

[Papa Legba]

Do the Kluson Vintage Revolution Locking tuners, they look great on an LP. They look so much better.

https://www.amazon.com/Kluson-Revolution-Locking-Keystone-Buttons/dp/B0741CK4HB/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3NRS7ANSZ2XN&keywords=kluson+vintage+locking+tuners&qid=1666310301&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIzLjUwIiwicXNhIjoiMi4yNSIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=kluson+vintage+locking+tuners%2Caps%2C130&sr=8-2&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.f5122f16-c3e8-4386-bf32-63e904010ad0

Before
View attachment 644073
View attachment 644074

After

View attachment 644075
View attachment 644076

Those do look really good I’ll check them out. Does StewMac have them?

 

[rjwilson37]

Yes, I am pretty sure they do.

Kluson 3+3 Locking Revolution Series G-Mount Tuners - StewMac

The Kluson Revolution is a 19:1 high ratio tuner made to directly retrofit vintage Gibson-style tuners.

www.stewmac.com

 

[rbraad68]

Here is a set i used on my JB laz...