SUV's targeted in 'Weight Tax'

[lancpudn]

France has declared war on big SUV's (which already carry a €20,000 levy for high emissions ) with a new weight tax on any vehicle over 1800kg/3968lbs charged at €10/kg over 1800kgs to start in 2021. https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/353518/suvs-targeted-new-weight-tax-france

 

[Scooter2112]

I’m shocked.

 

[cjpeck]

does that include commercial vehicles/tractor-trailer rigs?

 

[sonar1]

My newer 4X4 V8 F-150 is more efficient than the last two Ranger 4-bangers I had

 

[judson]

thats why there are only " freedom fries" in the USA

would you like that supersized?

 

[MenaceMartin]

My newer 4X4 V8 F-150 is more efficient than the last two Ranger 4-bangers I had

Will never be as efficient as a French car though. You'll only get a tank out of them before they fall apart... if you're lucky.

 

[lancpudn]

does that include commercial vehicles/tractor-trailer rigs?

They're being brought into line with private vehicle emission from 2025 onwards in the EU & UK. "From 2025 on, manufacturers will have to meet the targets set for the fleet-wide average CO2 emissions of their new lorries registered in a given calendar year. Stricter targets will start applying from 2030 on."

 

[dspelman]

France has declared war on big SUV's (which already carry a €20,000 levy for high emissions ) with a new weight tax on any vehicle over 1800kg/3968lbs charged at €10/kg over 1800kgs to start in 2021. https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/353518/suvs-targeted-new-weight-tax-france

Weight tax is being considered in a number of states and even federally. The popularity of hugemongous trucks with a single driver has affected the infrastructure; the added weight per vehicle tears up roads and highways faster and the added length per vehicle affects traffic. And they use more parking area per vehicle.

In the traffic category, it's been noted that they're generally slower to respond at stop lights and they tend to "cheat" over center on turns, but they haven't figured out yet how to tax that.

 

[Olds442]

Weight tax is being considered in a number of states and even federally. The popularity of hugemongous trucks with a single driver has affected the infrastructure; the added weight per vehicle tears up roads and highways faster and the added length per vehicle affects traffic. And they use more parking area per vehicle.

In the traffic category, it's been noted that they're generally slower to respond at stop lights and they tend to "cheat" over center on turns, but they haven't figured out yet how to tax that.

i have faith in the California legislature. they'll find a way.

they'll probably call it the "war on fat" tax.

 

[sonar1]

Will never be as efficient as a French car though. You'll only get a tank out of them before they fall apart... if you're lucky.

Describes an AMC Renault Alliance we had briefly, perfectly!

 

[dspelman]

i have faith in the California legislature. they'll find a way.

they'll probably call it the "war on fat" tax.

California's array of gas taxes makes it eye-popping to fill up a truck, even at CostCo these days. I filled up at a CostCo in Las Vegas at $2.29, filled up in Monterey Park, CA later the same day for $2.89.

What with the array of electric pickups due to hit the streets within the next five years, they'll have to shift the tax structure either to weight or recharge stations (which are now popping up at a ton of local parking lots, including a bunch at the local Walmart).

 

[cjpeck]

private vehicles don't damage roads. Tractor trailers and heavy commercial trucks do. Want some evidence? check out a local residential street with no truck traffic, then roll on over to the road next to a wall mart or someplace that gets daily semi deliveries.

 

[fett]

There seems to be some de-tractors and a few trailers in this argument.

 

[sonar1]

My pickup beats the bumps back flat into the roads

 

[Uncle Vinnie]

Seems like they're trying to tare us apart.

 

[THDNUT]

Time for another French Revolution.

 

[fett]

We should Band together and sing along. https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=the+weight+the+band#id=3&vid=d40b12d6e44831db6f91700ef2417f5c&action=click

 

[jvin248]

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+1 unintended consequences ... but the only way to flip buyers back to cars is bump the fuel prices.

Every time fuel hits $4/gallon people dump their SUVs and you can't find a fuel efficient car anywhere because the tank fill up hits over $100 and ol' Ben becomes a psychologist to hurdle.

Without that weekly budget hit, buyers just get a six or seven year loan to cover the increased up front pricing.

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[Bill Hicklin]

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+1 unintended consequences ... but the only way to flip buyers back to cars is bump the fuel prices.

Every time fuel hits $4/gallon people dump their SUVs and you can't find a fuel efficient car anywhere because the tank fill up hits over $100 and ol' Ben becomes a psychologist to hurdle.

Without that weekly budget hit, buyers just get a six or seven year loan to cover the increased up front pricing.

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Since when is it any of the proper functions of government to "flip buyers back to cars?"

Frankly, this sort of thing reminds me of medieval sumptuary laws, which forbade the lower orders to wear clothes above their station, lest they be confused with their betters. Silks and velvets were reserved to the nobility. What we are seeing now is a world where Escalades and S-classes are becoming the exclusive province of the wealthy and the governmental ruling class.