String tree or not?

[MrRhoads]

Hi

Some say string tree's take away sustain on Stratocasters other use 2 string tree's and i've got 1 string tree on the e & b string on my Stratocaster.
I don't notice any less sustain from thoose strings compared to the other strings.
What do you folks think about string tree's?
Just curious here.

 

[tampa898]

I wouldn't have one on a guitar that doesn't need one. On a strat without the tree the string will pop out of the nut in my experience. usually the high E and B strings. But you can also put tuning heads to aleivate the problem. The low E tuner peg is long and they gradually get shorter as you up the head stock taking away the need for string trees.

 

[BrianM]

You definately need one for the b and e, or the strings pop outta the nut. Some Fenders need one on the g also, or the open string has a wierd overtone sound. Pluck your open g (unplugged) and listen to it. Then hold the string behind the nut and pluck it again. You might notice a difference. If not, you only need one tree.

 

[Indyclone]

I'd think that'd be the opposite... no tree, less sustain. Seeing as it would lessen the break angle over the nut.

Staggered height tuners will help, but I still think the E & B strings need to have a tree.

I use graphtech trees on both of my strats, they're not the best looking, but they work great.

 

[coldsteal2]

The Eric Johnson strat has a greater tilt than
a regular strat head, and has Vintage stagerd height
tuning keys so no need for a tree.

But a regular strat, i never tried that

 

[dazzypig]

I'd think that'd be the opposite... no tree, less sustain. Seeing as it would lessen the break angle over the nut.

Same here.

 

[hellraiser_666]

i sometimes hear weird overtones on mine without something muting that part of it, but other wise, not a big deal at all.

 

[Benjammin]

I dont know about sustain, but I think the tree interfers with tuning stability with tremolo use, I always take them off. Ive never tried roller tree on a guitar, though I put one on my bass after I noticed the old tree wearing down the strings

 

[bobarino]

i always use 2 trees.

 

[MrRhoads]

I dont know about sustain, but I think the tree interfer with tuning stability with tremolo use, I always take them off. Ive never tried roller tree on a guitar, though I put one on my bass after I noticed the old tree wearing down the strings

Well the e & b strings hold the tuning better than the g string which haven't got a string tree on my Strat and i both bend and use the tremolo

 

[GitFiddle]

If anything the string tree would increase sustain providing another resonant point of contact from string to body, but actually your sustain is only going to be between the nut and the bridge.

 

[Benjammin]

Well the e & b strings hold the tuning better than the g string which haven't got a string tree on my Strat and i both bend and use the tremolo

Well I was only speaking from my own personal experience with multiple strats and strat type guitars. The string tree is another point of friction, in some cases that extra friction can cause extra instability

 

[AngryHatter]

Hi

Some say string tree's take away sustain on Stratocasters other use 2 string tree's and i've got 1 string tree on the e & b string on my Stratocaster.
I don't notice any less sustain from thoose strings compared to the other strings.
What do you folks think about string tree's?
Just curious here.

Behind the nut the string is not supposed to be vibrating at all. If it is, you have a sustain problem unrelated to string trees.
They allow for a larger break angle over the nut for the high string. On a headstock with no angle behind the nut they are necessary 99% of the time.

 

[Jessenoah]

i always use 2 trees.

sometimes, I have 2 soups

 

[slapshot]

depends which tree too.
I always use the vintage round ones as oppossed to the butterflys

 

[bobarino]

sometimes, I have 2 soups

on your guitar?

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

What Benjamin420 wrote is borne out by all my experience with string trees as well.

I need to get a roller-tree for my Squier. The D & G are fine without theirs, but I need it for the B & E, and these are always the problem children on this guitar, tuning-wise.