Sleeper Japanese Les Paul Copies

[Udonitron]

$650! Nice!

 

[3pupLPC]

Aria looks like the new MIJ hype....

I have one on the way too...

 

[vintageJIM]

Those of you in the know, what are the sleeper Japanese Les Paul copies? I have heard about Tokai, Greco, Burny, Edwards, and Bacchus, but I am wondering if there are equally good Japanese Les Pauls that can be found here in the States for a reasonable sum (say $500).

I have played several other brands than you have listed, played the ones you have listed, and there are several brands I have not yet played.

I would like to play a Navigator, or a Provision but from my limited experience with what I have played, I have come to the conclusion that for my experience, and for my money, Bacchus is the best bang for my buck.
Of course this is only one opinion, and one opinion that I'm sure some are quite tired of but it is still one opinion.

If that qualifies Bacchus for 'sleeper' status, then great but I'm not saying it does, or does not; I don't really care.

It's not meant to be superior, as some great IQed people claim to percieve such matters; it's only one opinion so, hopefully folks won't get their panties all in a crack when they see that I believe Bacchus is the best bang for the buck in guitarville but if they do, then I really don't give a flying **** ............................

everyone's mileage will of course vary ................... no apologies here .......................

 

[mono]

... Les Pauls that can be found here in the States for a reasonable sum (say $500).

I don't think Bacchus qualifies for either of those.
Also, there are many more parameters to intelligence than IQ alone

 

[vintageJIM]

yes, as I stated from my limited experience

personally, unless an individual is extremely lucky, I don't see consistant deals at the $500 level for higher quality, I see those types of deals for the lower end stuff

I would rather spend twice, to three times as much, and receive an awesome guitar, instead of one that isn't half bad for $500

for my $$$$ I want a great guitar, not a so so, avergae POS .................

one man's trash is another man's treasure & one man's treasure is another man's trash; it's all a two way street

everyone's mileage may vary ....................

 

[Udonitron]

I have one on the way too...

Haha nice...pics?
I caved this morn, after 2+ months, and bought an 1988 Mint Collection Greco cream custom.
Could not resist for the stupid price and it had DRY 82 pickups

 

[slapshot]

don't bother to share any further information will ya?

 

[Udonitron]

Well, I do not want to hijack the OP's thread
That your dog in the pic?
Damn cute, American Bull or Terrier?
See here I go hijacking the thread!

 

[slapshot]

12 month old english staffordshire bull terrier named Marlon who doesn't like camera flashes,Agiles,cops or indians

 

[Udonitron]

HAHA that is horrible.
You teaching him those bad habits?

 

[slapshot]

6 months ago there was a gretsch,fender,epiphone (visitors not mine) and gibson laying side by side on the floor and he wizzed on the epiphone

if someone comes to the front door he's tail wagging wanting to come out & play but one day about 4 months ago an indian came to the door selling something and he barked and bared the teeth in a very aggressive way

whenever I get pulled over by the cops he barks uncontrollably at them.

these all came naturally.Can't teach a dog good habits like that

 

[tonebone]

yes, as I stated from my limited experience

personally, unless an individual is extremely lucky, I don't see consistant deals at the $500 level for higher quality, I see those types of deals for the lower end stuff

I would rather spend twice, to three times as much, and receive an awesome guitar, instead of one that isn't half bad for $500

for my $$$$ . . .

You have the $$$$$.

Happy for ya.

I don't and many others here don't, either.

My level of playing doesn't require much, but I have a killer Burny for under your "twice or three times as much."



And my opinion? The OP should take your advice on a Burny RLG-50, mid 1980's model.

 

[tonebone]

Burny Super Grade Standard LP Sunburst Guitar MIJ 80's - eBay (item 220702472794 end time Dec-06-10 18:56:14 PST)

Item number: 220702472794

Not a RLG-50, but the only "safe" deal around right now.

For a stateside guy, that doesn't feel comfortable with rinkya, that is.

 

[tonebone]

But if he can swing it,
Bacchus guitar BLS59 Nitro RARE Burst - eBay (item 170560540374 end time Dec-31-10 01:47:56 PST)
Item number: 170560540374

Good ol koiz, lovable guy he is,

Q: Will you take $1050 for it with shipping included? Nov-27-10
A: no
Q: Hello do you know the manufacturing year ? Is it a long tenon ? Are the frets used or damaged ? Is the body is weight relieved ? Best regards Martin Nov-27-10
A: Japan made ,not china series. long tenon .frets left about 65~75% by my judge. 3.9kg weight. nice burst clone
Q: Hi, Exchange? I have a very high-end '89 Greco EG-1000D in perfect condition, with a weight of 3,8 kg. Pics: http://kephost.hu/image-7E06_4CCEEBCB.jpg http://kephost.hu/image-51E4_4CCEEBCB.jpg http://kephost.hu/image-7CC2_4CCEEBCB.jpg Nov-01-10
A: Hi. thanks nice g greco uitar isn't it. I did list bacchus BLS yestaday. I will consider it after few week latter. thanks Sat

 

[tonebone]

Or he could get one of those Bacchus Universe's off of digimart or somthin. I've finally seen some good reviews on 'em.

 

[3pupLPC]

You have the $$$$$.

Happy for ya.

I don't and many others here don't, either.

My level of playing doesn't require much, but I have a killer Burny for under your "twice or three times as much."



And my opinion? The OP should take your advice on a Burny RLG-50, mid 1980's model.

I don't think RLG-50's are $500 guitars anymore... especially on ebay.

 

[3pupLPC]

Haha nice...pics?
I caved this morn, after 2+ months, and bought an 1988 Mint Collection Greco cream custom.
Could not resist for the stupid price and it had DRY 82 pickups

No pix yet... it's an ES-335 though!

You're gonna love the DRY '82's.

 

[vintageJIM]

But if he can swing it,
Bacchus guitar BLS59 Nitro RARE Burst - eBay (item 170560540374 end time Dec-31-10 01:47:56 PST)
Item number: 170560540374

Good ol koiz, lovable guy he is,

Q: Will you take $1050 for it with shipping included? Nov-27-10
A: no
Q: Hello do you know the manufacturing year ? Is it a long tenon ? Are the frets used or damaged ? Is the body is weight relieved ? Best regards Martin Nov-27-10
A: Japan made ,not china series. long tenon .frets left about 65~75% by my judge. 3.9kg weight. nice burst clone
Q: Hi, Exchange? I have a very high-end '89 Greco EG-1000D in perfect condition, with a weight of 3,8 kg. Pics: http://kephost.hu/image-7E06_4CCEEBCB.jpg http://kephost.hu/image-51E4_4CCEEBCB.jpg http://kephost.hu/image-7CC2_4CCEEBCB.jpg Nov-01-10
A: Hi. thanks nice g greco uitar isn't it. I did list bacchus BLS yestaday. I will consider it after few week latter. thanks Sat

according to one, or two folks here (depending on mitigating factors) those can be had for ~$500 so, folks need to knock their selves out on those, when available ...............

 

[vintageJIM]

I don't think RLG-50's are $500 guitars anymore... especially on ebay.

I had my 1981/1982 solid (plain) top RLG offered, with Burny HScase for $1100, and it did not sell

glad too ...............................

 

[Udonitron]

No pix yet... it's an ES-335 though!

You're gonna love the DRY '82's.

Ah was it a wine red one by chance?
Yeah I had the 82's in my 120....killer boutique sounding pups