Slash's Max replica - putting it all in perspective once and for all

[MisterMiniMite]

It really needs to be said. The fascination with Slash's Max replica - specifically the guitar featured in the Welcome To The Jungle video - is one of the biggest examples of misplaced fascination in the history of rock music gear - certainly in Les Paul related history. Slash never recorded a note on that guitar. Sure, it has some place in rock history and Slash history (as one of the main guitars Slash used live on the road in the 1987-1988 time frame), but the continued obsession with this guitar is really getting to be a drag - even to me.

Over the years following Appetite, there were a couple of things said, a couple of comments and claims made, some completely innocently and some maybe not so much (and I am not talking about things Slash himself said when I say "maybe not so much") that have led us to the warped place we are today in the perception of the significance of Slash's Max replica. It is similar in a lot of ways to how the Marshall Silver Jubilees have been the beneficiary over the years of the myth that they had anything to do with the Appetite album.

If you're wondering, I'm a huge Slash fan. I wrote the Sweet Marshall O Mine articles. I started afdforum.com. I've met Slash a few times in person. There might be no bigger Slash supporter than me on the MLP forum. But, enough is enough!

Now, if you want to talk about a truly important guitar in rock history and Slash history, the Derrig replica is, was, and always will be, the one to obsess about.

 

[UITA]

I look forward to this being made a sticky.

 

[GuN'R]

I look forward to not seeing another Slash bashing festival. But I doubt it.

 

[mono]

We don't bash Slash, just the fanboys and the tone

 

[MisterMiniMite]

I look forward to destroying any remnants of the myth that a Max had anything to do with Appetite. I look forward to the day when people realize that Slash's Derrig and Slash's Max shouldn't even be mentioned in the same paragraph together. And I look forward to the day when Maxes are bought, sold, discussed, and debated without any mention of Slash, Appetite, or GNR.

 

[slapshot]

I look forward to the creation of a Slash forum section

 

[SlashN'Izzy]

I am one of the ones that started a thread on here about Slash's Max but I just wanted to know about the history on it. I am more of an Izzy fan though; He is the reason I am a Rhythm Guitarist.

 

[OldBenKenobi]

We don't bash Slash, just the fanboys and the tone

Well, except for the wankers who jump in with "Slash sucks and I can play better than him he was just at the right place at the right time and hes way too sloppy to be good."

 

[mono]

I've never seen that opinion voiced on MLP.

Jimmy Page was more sloppy than Slash, anyway... And he's my hero

 

[ledfloyd]

I've never seen that opinion voiced on MLP.

Jimmy Page was more sloppy than Slash, anyway... And he's my hero

Initially jimmy wasn't sloppy at all. Listening to the early boots from 68 to about 70 or 71 he was dead on. Then he started wearing the guitar lower and lower around 72 and he started to become sloppy. That being said jimmy is the best guitarist ever no matter what year it is. And people only hate on cause they cant get tone.

 

[UITA]

Great at this rate we should be at 7 pages before we know it.

 

[Udonitron]

Slash tone...ahaha oh wait
SLASH TONEtm
There, that is better.

 

[GuN'R]

I just came back from attempting to digest the 35 page thread on who really built the Max LP that Slash used(mmm..BURP!) I got frustrated and bored after 22 pages. I understand that it has some historical signifance but........OMG, the OP is right. There is a pretty obscense fascination over that guitar. After a while I just started thinking to myself "who really gives a sh__??" Sorry if that upsets anyone here, not trying to be offensive. But I am hungry and now it is time for nachos

 

[River]

Initially jimmy wasn't sloppy at all. Listening to the early boots from 68 to about 70 or 71 he was dead on. Then he started wearing the guitar lower and lower around 72 and he started to become sloppy. That being said jimmy is the best guitarist ever no matter what year it is. And people only hate on cause they cant get tone.

You have to define "sloppy". I saw him back then. The critics called it "sloppy". I called it "brilliant".

I saw no change between '71 and '72. Some "off" performances got recorded, that's all.

 

[ledfloyd]

You have to define "sloppy". I saw him back then. The critics called it "sloppy". I called it "brilliant".

I saw no change between '71 and '72. Some "off" performances got recorded, that's all.

Critics call him sloppy. You call him brilliant. I call him god of guitar.

 

[rirakuma]

Im probably a bit off topic but the whole tone thing is overrated. Sure you can probably pick out the good and bads in a studio but if slash changed some his amp/pedalboard in live situation I doubt that the crowd will notice any difference.

I appreciate boutique/vintage gears but I dont like the hype some of it gets.

 

[Drew224]

You have to define "sloppy". I saw him back then. The critics called it "sloppy". I called it "brilliant".

I saw no change between '71 and '72. Some "off" performances got recorded, that's all.

Just out of curiosity, do you think that there was a difference in Page's playing between '75 and '77?

 

[Mike's_LP]

Initially jimmy wasn't sloppy at all. Listening to the early boots from 68 to about 70 or 71 he was dead on. Then he started wearing the guitar lower and lower around 72 and he started to become sloppy. That being said jimmy is the best guitarist ever no matter what year it is. And people only hate on cause they cant get tone.

Heroin has it's ways with a person. Nonetheless, Page is my first & eminent Guitar Hero.

 

[captcoolaid]

which came first and when. The Derrig was the one on the AFD right? and when did he supposedly get this guitar. I know he had it I just want to hear when folks think he got it. Because from what I have seen he did not get it until the start of the AFD recording sessions. Is this true. And when did the sessions begin.

And are we talking this guitar as the obsession guitar.

 

[SlashN'Izzy]

which came first and when. The Derrig was the one on the AFD right? and when did he supposedly get this guitar. I know he had it I just want to hear when folks think he got it. Because from what I have seen he did not get it until the start of the AFD recording sessions. Is this true. And when did the sessions begin.

And are we talking this guitar as the obsession guitar.

The Hunterburst was the Guitar Slash had used for Club touring Pre-Appetite era and it is somewhat drew him to wanting a Les Paul for the Appetite Recording.