- Apr 7, 2008
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I didn’t say I didn’t hear a difference, just that I didn’t think it was a difference I preferred. After all, it’s only a matter of what’s better for the player, isn't it?All I can say then sir is we all hear things differently then, but that's not exactly a new insight
I also upgraded the tuners on my Jimmy Vaughan Strat, but with Kluson locking tuners. Result: more snap, more clarity, more sustain. But no doubt different density, weight and fit to the headstoock. I almost always upgrade to locking tuners on my guitars. The difference is always dramatic. Some are Grover typoe, some are Sperzel, some Kluson. Two examples stand out.Yes it's no joke. I was upgrading my Jimmie Vaughan Strat. I installed Sperzal lockers. I thought I was playing a different guitar. What ring and sustain! The Sperzals are very heavy for one thing. I only opened up the holes just enough to "tap in" the tuning machines extremely tightly. (be careful on that) The tool that I used to bore out the tuner holes is the drum shaped sanding bit that comes with all Dremel tools. I didn't know that the fit would be so tight. Some people might be afraid to pound the Sperzals in for fear of breaking the headstock. Heavy, tight fitting tuners gives the same effect as clamping a weight on your headstock increasing ring and acoustic volume.
The flyback transformer in old TVs put out a 15.75 KHz (B/W TV) sound. When I was young I could tell immediately that the TV was on.interesting comments about hearing much higher frequencies than most people discovered in Biology Class in 1973 .. in 1973 I was 17 and probably had pretty good hearing at the higher frequencies .. we all know regarding hearing loss that the higher frequencies are the first to go ... I've always used the Diapason Pierre Verany Test Disc of reference test tones to test my hearing range .. it's been years since I've used the disc but last time I tested I know I was essentially deaf above the 8K signal ... I probably could have heard it if I were to raise the sound level by 40 to 50db .. at 64 I'm sure I have lost even more hearing in the higher frequencies ..
Frankly, I didn't see enough wrong with his post that would call for such sarcasm. I understood it perfectly.Is English your second language because I don’t understand some of your spelling and grammar, so parts of your post don’t make sense ?
I put locking grovers on my 2000 morte. No extra holes. The change in stability was immediate, I didn’t need stretching and it stays in tun. I just got a 2020 50s standard, and I am going to replace the Klusons with locking Kluson tuners. I’m curious why you didn’tSo I installed some Grovers on my ol’ beater of a Les Paul and I have to say the tonal improvement with regard to response, sustain and note to note balance across the fretboard is not subtle. The guitar as a whole feels more alive and vibrant.
I know there is a simplistic view that added weight at the end of the headstock deadens the response but this is completely contrary to basic physics. Even acoustic guitar makers know that proper bracing is crucial to enhancing and tuning tonal response.
Prior to the Grovers, The guitar was tonally a bit “unfocused”. The lighter kluson tuners allowed the resonances to either cancel out or dissipate creating a somewhat muddled response plugged in despite the guitar being acoustically quite loud. The Grovers have not lessened the resonances as the guitar still rings out loudly acoustically. However that muddledness when plugged in is gone. Now the guitar has greater definition and punch with plenty of sweet overtones and harmonics that a great Les Paul is able to deliver.
I do think to Grover or not to Grover maybe guitar dependent. Some guitars have a compact and very strong fundamental tone that would be better served with klusons. But acoustically loud Les Pauls especially those that seem to have a tonal response that a little more prominent in the lower mids might very well benefit from them.
I also like the looks, has that old school rock n roll vibe
I put locking grovers on my 2000 morte. No extra holes. The change in stability was immediate, I didn’t need stretching and it stays in tun. I just got a 2020 50s standard, and I am going to replace the Klusons with locking Kluson tuners. I’m curious why you didn’t put Kluso locking tuners, no extra holes?