Samick ES335 Copy

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Your comments and feedback are very helpful- as I think this through. I did get a chance to play it, and honestly , it did nothing for me. )Nothing at all like the ES125 did for me years ago in only 30 seconds I was like, “This is IT!” ) The only reason I stopped to consider it was the good deal it seemed to be. It looks like for an investment purpose for something I may play occasionally, might be a waste of money....
 
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Did you get the chance to play it? That's really going to be your answer. I have plenty of "low end" guitars that rock! That Ibanez I showed you is super resonant! Notice I haven't put it for sale yet as I debate whether I should just keep it. I have so many guitars though!
One can NEVER have too many guitars!
 

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Good problem to have... is your collection posted?

Definitely not all of them I'm quite sure. I'm about to build a double decker stand that can hold 24-26 cases to make storage easier. But, then all guitars after the first 24-26 may end up in a second room.
 

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If you weren't blown away by it, then don't bother. Every guitar mistake I have ever made began like this... "I could learn to love it."
 

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I agree, if it didn't make you say, yes, I want it! then keep looking.

Now a lot of the guitars came from Japan and of course I couldn't try them first. But, some work here and there and so far I'd have to say none of them have been duds. Gibsons and other Asian made guitars can be really hit or miss.
 

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Ok- so I DO have a Gibson LP Studio with Gibson HC- valued around $800. (Avatar) If I was to upgrade- what’s the next level LP to move up to? And how much would that be? (Apologize- I keep going back and forth between hollow body and another LP)...
 

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Ok- so I DO have a Gibson LP Studio with Gibson HC- valued around $800. (Avatar) If I was to upgrade- what’s the next level LP to move up to? And how much would that be? (Apologize- I keep going back and forth between hollow body and another LP)...
Instead of looking at it as "upgrading", find something that speaks to you. I spent most of my guitar life with Gibson Paul Customs, and after selling my last one off, picked up a Studio Faded with a headstock repair that I adore. From between the Melody Makers to the Custom Shop, there is something there that will fit your hand, and give you the sound that you hear in your head.
 

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There is nothing wrong with a Studio. Does it feel right in your hands and sound how you want it to? If so, it's a good guitar and "upgrading" would just mean getting more bling like binding, maybe a flame top. If that's the case, then a Classic, Tradional or Standard. I don't think I'd worry about which of those 3 it was, but concentrate on finding one that has the right neck, is resonant and has a look you like.
 

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There is nothing wrong with a Studio. Does it feel right in your hands and sound how you want it to? If so, it's a good guitar and "upgrading" would just mean getting more bling like binding, maybe a flame top. If that's the case, then a Classic, Tradional or Standard. I don't think I'd worry about which of those 3 it was, but concentrate on finding one that has the right neck, is resonant and has a look you like.
Wise advice- thanks!
 

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I have 2 studio's, they are not going anywere! One super light the other heavy as f..... :rofl: :rofl:
 

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If you like the action and the sound I'd say go for it. Some time back I picked up a Samick Avion by Greg Bennett for only $119 and I can't believe the quality for the price. Sounds great clean or dirty and the neck is super-comfy. I'm not a connoisseur of any kind, and I never ran the serial number to see where or when it was built. All I know is that it is a total joy to play. If buying a non-prestige guitar gives you the heebie-jeebies, check out some of Darrell Braun's YouTube videos and it might make you feel better about buying a budget priced guitar.
 

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I caught this beautiful Samick shredder at a local (now closed) music store in Athens, GA. Probably 15 years ago. Paid $280 for it. It is absolutely flawless, I kid you not. It's heavy as hell too, as you might imagine. Very happy to have this axe; it's one I will never sell.
 

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I have a Greg Bennett Royale made by Samick, and a Gibson ES355 Alex Lifeson Custom Shop. Guess which is the better built guitar....... go for it at that price, it’s a steal. Regards value, all guitars are going up in value right now except the absolute crap low end stuff. It’s not an investment piece but you should lose out ever.
 

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Samick is hit and mis. I had several, kept the 2 i liked best (tho it was hard to let the rl4 royale go.)
Don't buy if you don't like how it plays. Not only for Samick, that count for any brand.
That strat is cool, someone offered one to me once as he said i liked heavy guitars anyway :rofl:
 

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You'll pay ten times that amount for a new Gibson ES-335... not worth it IMHO, but that's me and how I buy guitars. I like used guitars and I love Asian made guitars that play great. If you don't like the sound, gutting the electronics is like $30-40 and new pickups are $75-$120 (or more) each.

Rather than ask for opinions here (opinions are like belly buttons, everyone has one)... ask yourself... do you like how it plays? When you test drive it in the store do you feel like keeping it in your hands and then you start playing some of your favorite licks and chords and suddenly its sounds good.

Opinions ona bulletin board have zero sway to my purchases. I buy what I want when I find a test driver that has that "soul" and I don't care how cheap it is or what value it will hold... here's a thought:

1) Buy a brand new guitar and as soon as you walk out of the door with it it is now a "used" guitar and you lose around 30% or more of the value just by crossing the threshold of the store.

2) Buy a used guitar, and if you want to sell it, you get (most times) 100% of your money back, no matter the dollars spent

Which option makes more financial sense? >> #2...

Examples...
- I bought a mint condition Fender American Elite HSS Strat for $675 at a pawn shop across the street. New they are in the $1800-ish range. I could make money on it by selling it used for like they sell for on Reverb, about $1,100 - $1,200... I saw one just like it, same color and everything all beat to hell at Guitar Center for $1,400... of course their whole store is 100% rip-off, new or used...

- At another pawn shop across the stte line I bought a mint condition Fender Classic Player Baja Tele for $300... new they are $825... even decent used price would be $550 or so...

- On the local Craigslist I bought an Epiphone Les Paul Tradition Pro with the hard case for $150. New the guitar is $500 and those cases are $130. I gutted the electronics and replaced with all USA ... replaced the pickups with new Dimarzios... now its one of the best les Pauls I've ever owned... Go figure

Also, the Samick company makes thousands of guitars. Not only do they make Samick brand guitars, they also make guitars for dozens and dozens of other companies with a different company name on the headstock. Someone here more knowledgeable than me might be able to tell you which guitar brand's Asian guitar models are made by Samick, but (not exactly these but to this effect), Paul Reed Smith SE models, G&L Tribute models, I probably don't have the brands right, but the fact is these companies (PRS and G&L) entrust Samick and Cort and other companies to make their lesser quality yet very great quality guitars. (Someone else may have the exact factory and brands made there that I don't have right)... needless to say, Samick is a helluva guitar factory...

Even if you buy a brand new Martin, Gibson, or Fender for full price brand new at a store the value drops off as soon as you walk out. It is now a USED guitar and nobody is going to give you 100% of your money back when buying a USED guitar.

BUT... if you buy a used guitar in the first place, if you decide to sell it, chances atre good unless you got ripped off you'll get 100% of your money back.

If you like how it plays, get it. Its only $371. Then go back and see what else they have used that you like. Maybe a different body shape or pickup combination. Doesn't matter the brand anymore. The quality oif Asian made guitars these days is light years beyond where it was in the 70s even 80s.

And if you see "Made in Indonesia" on it... they have been doing fine quality hand-made wood crafting in Indonesia for centuries, long long before there ever was an Orville Gibson, Leo Fender or Paul Reed Smith. PRS just started having their SE models made in Indonesia (I just don't know which factory name) and G&L has their Tribute line made IN THE SAME EXACT FACTORY as the PRS SE models are made... plus dozens and dozens more guitar brand names
 
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FWIW and your education... a Gibson ES-335 is NOT a "hollow" body guitar. It is a "semi-hollow" body guitar. A 335 has a solid bloak of wood down the center of the guitar and is "semi-hollow" meaning the otuside edges of the guitar are "hollow"

A true "Hollow" body guitar is empty inside and does not have a wood block down the middle.

Since you keep calling an ES-335 a "hollow" body guitar, I thought you might like to know.

For example... an Epiphone Casino looks just like a Gibson ES-335, but does not have the blaock down the middle, so it's category is a "Hollow Body" guitar... othe examples of "hollow body" guitars would be the Ibanez George Benson model, the Godin 5th Avenue Kingpin, the Gretsch G5410T Electromatic "Rat Rod", and PRS makes a true "hollow body" in their SE line up...

As far as "semi-hollow" body guitars... the Epiphone BB King Lucile (I have one), the Epiphone Johnny A Custom (I have one of these, too, LOL), the Epiphone Dot ES-335 (just sold one, LOL) ($449 brand new), Epiphone Sheraton, Gibson ES-235 (sort of a Les Paul shape)(and its $1,799... ouch), and the Squire Classic Vibe (or Affinity series) Starcaster...(the Affinity series Starcasters are $299 brand new, the Classic Vibe Starcasters are $399 brand new) - so plan to pay less than new if you can find them used (usually a good guestimation is used price is 66% of the new price... generally speaking)

If you got the chances, compare the Samick you are looking at to a new Epiphone Dot ES-335 ($449 new), or maybe the Squier Classic Vibe Starcaster ($399 new) -- which means either of these if a used guitar would be around the same price as the Samick you are considering. Play all of them if you can find them..

Comparatively, and New Gibson ES-335 sells for $2,600 these days... not even comparable to the Samick for $371 you are talking about.
 

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Here's a Squier Classic Vibe Starcaster in their "walnut" finish that I think is nice looking... (new $399.99)

They also come in natural and 3-tone burst

Not sure what case fits these, they don't come with a case. I've played one of these at the local Sam Ash store here in Florida and I really liked it. I also had the chance to compare it side-by-side to the Squier Affinity Starcaster (cheaper model) and I could notice some difference for the extra $100 for the Classic Vibe. Fender/Squier are doing some good stuff these days with their "Classic Vibe" series. I was a chest hair away from laying down some cash for one of the Squier Classic Vibe Jazzmasters... until the sales guy pointed out they had a Fender Classic Player Jazzmaster Special (Made in Mexico) marked down on clearance from $825 to $650 so I took that home instead.

Now, between those two series of Fender or Squier (by Fender) guitars...

- Squier Classic Vibe Jaxxmaster (made in China)
- Fender Classic Player Jazzmaster Special (made in Mexico)

They also had a made in USA Jazzmaster but I didn't play it... (too much more money)

- Squier Classic Vibe model -- played good, switches and controls worked just as they should for a Jazzmaster... foible >> the nut was funky, it had a dead 3rd string when it was played open... very annoying but something they would have fixed if I wanted to buy it

- Fender Classic Player model -- I totally got lost playing this guitar. It had a good feel and the electronics had a better sound to my ears. It had what I call a "soul" that the Cklassic Vibe Jazzmaster didn't... I ended up playing it for a half hour and trying all kinds of chords and changing the switch around to do different stuff. I could wait to throw money at the sales guy for it... haha

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I mentioned they also had a Squier Classic Vibe Starcaster Semi-Hollow... when I played it compared to the Affinity series Starcaster I also could tell a difference between the two. The Classic Vibe had that "soul" The pickups on each are different, and the Affinity series model only has one volume and one tone. I think a person gets their extra $100 worth between the two, Affinity - $299, Classic Vibe - $399.

Gator makes cases for about everything and I love and trust their cases... So I'll have to get a case from them for my Jazzmaster as it didn't come with one (as is the "case" these days)... and another selling pint if the $371 Samick has a case that fits... its anywhere from $75-$150 for a case these days ($200 if you want a Fender or Gibson case) -- all that is different is that fender or Gibson has the case maker scree print their name on the case... yikes... They're making a lot of money on that screen printing job...
 

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