Rocksmith post release thread!

[a Mad Cow]

Seth Chapla: I can't tell you specifically the songs that we're notetracking at the moment, but they are EXTREMELY metal. We consulted with a work safety expert and they recommended that we wear welding masks while working to avoid severe face melts. Being Seth Chapla and all, I declined of course, but I promise you, some heavy stuff is on the way.

 

[GNR4EVR]

Got it today- Im diggin it! Gonna be messing with it a whole lot more on the weekend... Everyones right, though, it definitely takes time to get over looking at the fretboard. Thats going to take some time.

 

[57VOS]

Waiting on the mailman to deliver the Game and am setting up the Rocksmith Room:

I have an Optical Cable from PS3 to Surround Receiver and a Guitar Cable running from Amp to Receiver Headphone Jack. An HDMI Cable from PS3 to TV and my 1960 Standard VOS standing by.

The Mailman is slower than molasses.

 

[Sirzach]

I played it at my friend's house today. It's not bad.

Too bad I bought Dance Central 2 yesterday.

 

[The Outlaw]

i think i may pick this up within the next couple of days when i return my dean xmt. especially if they do that deal match thing listed above.

 

[GodinSession]

So as far as the latency problem goes, has anyone tried this as a solution?
Run your guitar into your amp, and then use your effects loop out into the playstation. Then go into the sound settings for rocksmith and turn the sound all the way down for the guitar. This just may work. You could then use your amp and the game should still pick up what you are playing on your guitar. Just a thought. I may give this a try tonight and see how it works.
I got the game yesterday. I have some latency since I am using a HDMI cable only into my reciever and then an HDMI cable to my TV from my reciever. The amp mode is unusable there is so much latency. Better when playing a song, but there is still some. I am going to pick up a component cable and see if it helps. I have a PA system in the room with the playstation so my plan is to leave the HDMI cable in as is. Run the component audio cable to my PA system. Set the Playstation 3 to allow Multi-Audio Output. When I play Rocksmith, I will turn on the PA system and turn down my reciver all the way. When I play anything else or watch a blue ray, I will keep the PA system off and use the reciever. I think this will work and will not have to switch cables around evertime I want to play the game. With that being said, I'm interested still in the Effects Loop out of the amp option.

 

[ReWind James]

Godin,

You've got some good ideas there but I think you are also over-complicating things a bit.

Running into your amp, then a line out to the PS should work, pending you run your amp clean. If you start adding gain and effects, I suspect the added harmonics may throw off the tracking. Also, keep in mind the RS guitar cable/audio interface (because that's what it really is) is expecting an guitar level and impedance signal and you will be feeding it a line-level one instead. Probably will still work, but keep that in mind if you have to troubleshoot. The hotter signal itself may internally clip the interface and create harmonics that aren't supposed to be there (false notes).

As to your wiring setup - Why not just use an optical cable for audio and forget the component cable and PA system entirely? If you're receiver has HDMI switching built in, surely it also has optical audio inputs. You won't loose any features by setting your PS3 to output audio via optical only and setting your receiver to use HDMI for video and optical for audio when you select the PS3 source. You may find that you don't need your amp inline with the signal in this case as well. It's a $5 single cable solution. Definitely worth a try before the other ideas.

 

[blamo]

So as far as the latency problem goes, has anyone tried this as a solution?
Run your guitar into your amp, and then use your effects loop out into the playstation. Then go into the sound settings for rocksmith and turn the sound all the way down for the guitar. This just may work. You could then use your amp and the game should still pick up what you are playing on your guitar. Just a thought. I may give this a try tonight and see how it works.
I got the game yesterday. I have some latency since I am using a HDMI cable only into my reciever and then an HDMI cable to my TV from my reciever. The amp mode is unusable there is so much latency. Better when playing a song, but there is still some. I am going to pick up a component cable and see if it helps. I have a PA system in the room with the playstation so my plan is to leave the HDMI cable in as is. Run the component audio cable to my PA system. Set the Playstation 3 to allow Multi-Audio Output. When I play Rocksmith, I will turn on the PA system and turn down my reciver all the way. When I play anything else or watch a blue ray, I will keep the PA system off and use the reciever. I think this will work and will not have to switch cables around evertime I want to play the game. With that being said, I'm interested still in the Effects Loop out of the amp option.

or just use an analog audio cable...

 

[bertzie]

Godin,

You've got some good ideas there but I think you are also over-complicating things a bit.

Running into your amp, then a line out to the PS should work, pending you run your amp clean. If you start adding gain and effects, I suspect the added harmonics may throw off the tracking. Also, keep in mind the RS guitar cable/audio interface (because that's what it really is) is expecting an guitar level and impedance signal and you will be feeding it a line-level one instead. Probably will still work, but keep that in mind if you have to troubleshoot. The hotter signal itself may internally clip the interface and create harmonics that aren't supposed to be there (false notes).

As to your wiring setup - Why not just use an optical cable for audio and forget the component cable and PA system entirely? If you're receiver has HDMI switching built in, surely it also has optical audio inputs. You won't loose any features by setting your PS3 to output audio via optical only and setting your receiver to use HDMI for video and optical for audio when you select the PS3 source. You may find that you don't need your amp inline with the signal in this case as well. It's a $5 single cable solution. Definitely worth a try before the other ideas.

You could try running a splitter. Half to amp, half to game. Would probably need some kind of preamp though.

 

[GodinSession]

cooljuk,
Very good points! I think you are right about the Effects loop out. It probably would not work as I was thinking.

As far as the Optical goes, I was under the impression that with Optical since it's digital, you could have the latency issues also, hence my thought of doing the component cable route.

I'm going to run to Best Buy at lunch and buy both cables if they say I can return them if one doesn't work. I will try both and see how they work.

It could be pretty cool through the PA though anyway, feel more like being onstage. HA!

Thanks for your thoughts...

How the heck do you figure out the video lag? Seems there should be some sort of wizard to adjust it automatically for you. Perhaps in a patch they will do this...

 

[Mike-t]

After playing some more and slowly breaking the habit of staring at my fretboard while playing I'm discovering that maybe I'm not as bad as I thought. I just needed to learn to navigate the fretboard without looking. The games are a huge help. Definitely a work in progress but lots of fun!

 

[silverburst83]

I found this in the FAQ on the Rocksmith site about latency... maybe helpful for some people who have the talked about options on their TV:
If you experience any noticeable latency with Rocksmith, then it’s more than likely due to the specific setup you’re using. Since everyone has a unique arrangement with their home entertainment systems, we’ve outlined steps you can take to avoid this issue.

If available on your TV, use the "Game" or "PC" mode setting. These modes bypass extra video processing filters to seriously reduce lag time.
If the TV does not have a Game or PC mode, you can diminish lag by turning off video processing filters. Refer to your TV manual for more information on how to turn off processing filters.
Check to see that the console is outputting video at the native resolution of your TV. If your TV’s native resolution is 1080p but your console is set to 720p, the TV must process the signal to scale the image up to fill the entire screen, which adds to the input lag.
On some TVs, HDMI connections can introduce more input lag than component or PC cables. If your TV has noticeable input lag using HDMI connection, you can diminish the lag by switching to component video cables or PC cables.
If you’re using external speakers, connecting the audio from the console to a stereo receiver or home theater system using analog audio cables can fix audio lag. To match the on-screen note display to the audio, you can advance the notes using the "Note Advance" calibration.

here is a pic they give of setups:
http://rocksmith.ubi.com/rocksmith/en-US/setup/index.aspx


My wife wants it for x-mas, but I think I'm going to wait for the PC version and see how bad everyone says the latency is, plus I'll still be able to game on the xbox if she wants to play this for hours on end, not to say I won't be playing it also.

The track list with the game isn't really that appealing... future DLC $$$

 

[ReWind James]

As far as the Optical goes, I was under the impression that with Optical since it's digital, you could have the latency issues also, hence my thought of doing the component cable route.

There are two schools of thought on this, and your solution to try both analog and optical is the best one.

Remember that the audio data coming of the physical game disc is digital so by outputting an analog signal you are actually processing it more through the console's conversion system. The other side of that coin is that your receiver is doing the same processing of the digital signal if your console isn't, since it needs to be analog when it hits your speakers to move air. Just depends on which piece of equipment is faster. The latency doesn't come from the cable (not any noticeable amount anyway) it's from the processing.

If you can successfully use optical as the means of transmission, you will keep your console's ability to output audio in various surround modes and to send audio at a (usually) better signal to noise ratio. If there are 6 and/or 8 channel analog audio cables for your console, you could do that as well and keep the surround options intact (I've not seen those cables, myself, however).

Video lag calibration in the game - just by trial and error as far as I know.

 

[cherokee]

I have a new problem....the boy got Battlefield3....I have not touched the xbox in 3 days.

 

[The Outlaw]

it sucks i'll be getting modern warfare 3 and rocksmith around the same time... not only will it be hard to choose but i gotta play like a crackhead. cant play while the wifey's home or she bitches. apparently when she bought an xbox 360 it was for decoration. every time i play she just bitches and whines l

 

[GodinSession]

Those of you that are not having audio lag, does the amp mode work fine for you? I have a lot of audio lag when in amp mode.

 

[Hamtone]

it sucks i'll be getting modern warfare 3 and rocksmith around the same time... not only will it be hard to choose but i gotta play like a crackhead. cant play while the wifey's home or she bitches. apparently when she bought an xbox 360 it was for decoration. every time i play she just bitches and whines l

I used to have the same thing. She could be getting dressed for work in her "dressing" room area for an hour and if I turned on the ps3 she would start bitching..

In retrospect I should have said "Oh Im sorry I mistaken that I to live here"

 

[The Outlaw]

I used to have the same thing. She could be getting dressed for work in her "dressing" room area for an hour and if I turned on the ps3 she would start bitching..

In retrospect I should have said "Oh Im sorry I mistaken that I to live here"

exactly man lol mine works night shift and if she even wakes up to go to the bathroom and sees me on the xbox she's bitchin lookin for somethin else for me to do. makes me feel like a crack head trying to avoid her seeing me game at all.

playing modern warfare 2 for 2 hours once or twice a week and all the sudden i need to grow up and get a life lol im really tempted to wait for the pc version. then i could plaw mw3 on xbox once or twice a week and play rocksmith any time anywhere on the laptop.

 

[ehs5mw]

Those of you that are not having audio lag, does the amp mode work fine for you? I have a lot of audio lag when in amp mode.

I am not really having problems with lag for either mode: game or amp. I am using HDMI out to the TV and Digital Optical out to my speakers.

 

[WolfeMacleod]

I discovered a few minutes ago a neat way to play Dawn of the Chordead.

Instead of just "find chord, strum" strum it with a rhythm like you're playing a song. Keep strumming until the next chord comes up, then change the chord.
I'm finding it's helping change chords quicker. I've always had a HARD struggle with it.

And holy crap.. I'm starting to remember more than E, C, D, and something else I dunno what it was. And what's more, I'm starting to remember their names.