Replacement Kluson Deluxe style tuners for vintage Tokai?

[thrashmetl]

I’ve looked around and haven’t been able to find a definitive answer to this question. The other threads on replacement don’t address the earlier vintage Tokai’s, but instead the more modern Tokais.

I have a 1981 Tokai ES-100 ES-335 style and a couple of the tuners are slipping so I want to replace them. I would have to assume that the tuners on the early 80’s Tokai LP’s are the same. Given that bridge parts between American and import guitars are different, I wanted to know if tuners are the same way. I don’t plan on replacing the bushings because I don’t see a point. Will new tuners just slide right in with the screw holes lining up or do I need import specific tuners?

Will these work?

Gotoh Vintage Keystone-style 3+3 Tuning Machines - StewMac

Vintage-style keystone knobs and stamped housings make these tuners the ideal vintage tuner replacement or upgrade.

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Golden Age Vintage Keystone-style 3+3 Tuning Machines - StewMac

Golden Age Vintage Keystone-style tuners feature stamped gear housings and greenish plastic knobs, just like the originals!

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[Mosster47]

I've always used Gotoh SD90s. Actual Klusons work too. They drop right in.

I've replaced the tuners on six or seven vintage Tokai LS guitars. You might need to widen the holes a little for the new bushings if the current ones don't work. I've had some that work with the stock bushings and some that needed replace.

If you can handle a power drill you can easily replace the tuners.

 

[therealfrogman]

The SD90 set will fit fine without replacing the bushings that are already on the guitar, you will be fine. Check the wiggle slop on the original ones and you will see they are about the same.

 

[thrashmetl]

Thanks much!