red dye bleeding onto binding

[markguitar]

My 2019 R0's red binding has completely faded. The top has faded quite a bit as well.

What’s the Burst color on your guitar? Is it Antiquity Burst?

 

[1allspub]

Ohhh...yeah It's always in the pink case when It's not in use...I didn't think of that. That must be it.

Do you often play your Pelham Blue right after playing your R0? Then it’s likely red dye from the R0 getting on your shirt and transferring to the Pelham. And since you wear black shirts your likely just not seeing it. Try wearing an old white shirt for a while as you play the R0 and see if it gets a little pinkish.

When I got my first RI (an R8) I was constantly A/Bing it against my Honeyburst Trad (with a brown back)... and red dye from the R8 got transferred onto me and then to the Trad in the form of light pink on the binding and body.

 

[Socrates]

Do you often play your Pelham Blue right after playing your R0? Then it’s likely red dye from the R0 getting on your shirt and transferring to the Pelham. And since you wear black shirts your likely just not seeing it. Try wearing an old white shirt for a while as you play the R0 and see if it gets a little pinkish.

When I got my first RI (an R8) I was constantly A/Bing it against my Honeyburst Trad (with a brown back)... and red dye from the R8 got transferred onto me and then to the Trad in the form of light pink on the binding and body.

Yes I do play them both pretty often when practicing. That could very well be what's happening.

Thanks...I will try a white tshirt today and see how much bleed I get from the R0!

 

[Sct13]

My antiquity burst has the same thing ....AD even has Pickguard shadow and Poker chip shadow ....which was a nice touch....and yes its factory

"Red as a Stoners eyes" .....theres a song in there somewhere

 

[Rogueaverage616]

My 2019 R0's red binding has completely faded. The top has faded quite a bit as well.

That is awsome…you even have the spot around the poker chip, where it didnt fade.Here is my 2019 R9

I cant wait till my 1958 Flying V clone is done, the uncoverd humbuckers in one of the build pics, are just there for an idea, it will have M69’s in black and gold PAF’s

 

[tonybony]

What’s the Burst color on your guitar? Is it Antiquity Burst?

It was originally dark cherry sunburst.

 

[Brek]

there's bleed and then there's what you describe which i have no idea how it is so thick. My 2020 R0 has the most dye bleed I have ever seen on a RI, to the point of ridiculousness, after two years it has faded back quite a bit. I think the base coat cherry red was sprayed way too thick on my example.

 

[mudface]

there's bleed and then there's what you describe which i have no idea how it is so thick. My 2020 R0 has the most dye bleed I have ever seen on a RI, to the point of ridiculousness, after two years it has faded back quite a bit. I think the base coat cherry red was sprayed way too thick on my example.

It's the pore/grain filler that has the aniline dye..... not the lacquer..... it would be clear or sometimes it would be a slight amber or yellow,...it depends about what year the historic was made. The back is not sprayed in red tint. If you find a chip that is red,... it's because the nitro lacquer absorbed the dye just like the binding.... which isn't the binding,...it's the lacquer over the binding.

 

[SoK66]

there's bleed and then there's what you describe which i have no idea how it is so thick. My 2020 R0 has the most dye bleed I have ever seen on a RI, to the point of ridiculousness, after two years it has faded back quite a bit. I think the base coat cherry red was sprayed way too thick on my example.

That is the issue, same as the originals. I note the ‘22 R0 I just acquired has a very thin finish and doesn’t have the binding bleed issue we’ve seen wth earlier year RIs. There’s a lot of bleed on the fingerboard binding of my ‘19 R8 but it does appear to be diminishing.

 

[ARandall]

I'm wondering if there isn't a solvent 'compatibility' between the nitro and the grainfiller that Gibson uses.....such that the more concentrated dye in the filler slowly makes its way into the nitro as it settles. None of the guitars I've built with porefiller tinted with aniline have had this migration issue, but they have had different bases than the nitro.

 

[Crotch]

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